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#251 2011-11-09 11:16:38

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

sanddude wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:

sanddude wrote:


So if you were taught that it's automatically right! Don't think for yourself! Just believe the garbage you've been spoon-fed all your life!

Okay so the stuff I was taught is garbage that I was spoonfed and the stuff you know is 'correct'. I don't think so, kid. And I told you to drop this already

And you lot, stop discussing the Westboro Baptist Church. They may seem like crazy idiots in our eyes but they believe they're doing the right thing (and this is religious discussion which is not allowed on Scratch). Discuss gay relationships or transeuxality but not this.

-It is garbage.
-You were spoonfed if you're just believing it because you were taught it.
-I actually have legitimate points to back it up.
-I don't have to drop this. You can't tell me what to do.
-They are crazy idiots.
-If they think they're doing the right thing, then that's their problem.
-But I do agree that we shouldn't talk too much about religion on here.

You think it's garbage, I don't. How dare you call someone else's beliefs garbage?
If you think parents / the environment you grew up in don't affect your choices, you're wrong. Your 'legitimate points' aren't too legitimate. The Westboro Baptist Church people think people who don't believe in the same beliefs as them are as big of idiots as you think they are. And yes, you do have to drop this if you want to keep posting here. End of discussion about this. Back on topic.


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#252 2011-11-09 16:52:08

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

Andres-Vander wrote:

sanddude wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:


Okay so the stuff I was taught is garbage that I was spoonfed and the stuff you know is 'correct'. I don't think so, kid. And I told you to drop this already

And you lot, stop discussing the Westboro Baptist Church. They may seem like crazy idiots in our eyes but they believe they're doing the right thing (and this is religious discussion which is not allowed on Scratch). Discuss gay relationships or transeuxality but not this.

-It is garbage.
-You were spoonfed if you're just believing it because you were taught it.
-I actually have legitimate points to back it up.
-I don't have to drop this. You can't tell me what to do.
-They are crazy idiots.
-If they think they're doing the right thing, then that's their problem.
-But I do agree that we shouldn't talk too much about religion on here.

You think it's garbage, I don't. How dare you call someone else's beliefs garbage?
If you think parents / the environment you grew up in don't affect your choices, you're wrong. Your 'legitimate points' aren't too legitimate. The Westboro Baptist Church people think people who don't believe in the same beliefs as them are as big of idiots as you think they are. And yes, you do have to drop this if you want to keep posting here. End of discussion about this. Back on topic.

You can't make him a) drop the subject b) stop posting here.

But the WBC are a bunch of closed-minded idiots!


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#253 2011-11-09 16:53:44

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

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But the WBC are a bunch of closed-minded idiots!

At first i thought you said the W3C


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#254 2011-11-09 16:57:02

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

TVflea wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

But the WBC are a bunch of closed-minded idiots!

At first i thought you said the W3C

What's the W3C?


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#255 2011-11-09 17:00:31

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

PlutoIsHades wrote:

TVflea wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

But the WBC are a bunch of closed-minded idiots!

At first i thought you said the W3C

What's the W3C?

World Wide Web Consortium. They're the people who made XML and stuff.


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#256 2011-11-09 17:18:53

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

TVflea wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

TVflea wrote:


At first i thought you said the W3C

What's the W3C?

World Wide Web Consortium. They're the people who made XML and stuff.

Never heard of 'em.  But this is getting off-topic.


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#257 2011-11-09 17:34:08

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

Andres-Vander wrote:

sanddude wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:


Okay so the stuff I was taught is garbage that I was spoonfed and the stuff you know is 'correct'. I don't think so, kid. And I told you to drop this already

And you lot, stop discussing the Westboro Baptist Church. They may seem like crazy idiots in our eyes but they believe they're doing the right thing (and this is religious discussion which is not allowed on Scratch). Discuss gay relationships or transeuxality but not this.

-It is garbage.
-You were spoonfed if you're just believing it because you were taught it.
-I actually have legitimate points to back it up.
-I don't have to drop this. You can't tell me what to do.
-They are crazy idiots.
-If they think they're doing the right thing, then that's their problem.
-But I do agree that we shouldn't talk too much about religion on here.

You think it's garbage, I don't. How dare you call someone else's beliefs garbage?
If you think parents / the environment you grew up in don't affect your choices, you're wrong. Your 'legitimate points' aren't too legitimate. The Westboro Baptist Church people think people who don't believe in the same beliefs as them are as big of idiots as you think they are. And yes, you do have to drop this if you want to keep posting here. End of discussion about this. Back on topic.

I call people's beliefs garbage when they're garbage. I call sexist and racist people's beliefs garbage, but no one seems to have a problem with that. Yes, the environment you grew up in does affect your beliefs, but it's just ignorant to assume that their the right thing to believe just because your parents taught you it. I came up with my opinions on homosexuality on my own by doing the research and learning the facts.


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#258 2011-11-09 17:40:25

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

Andres-Vander wrote:

sanddude wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:


The whole thing boils down to a religion thing, but I won't get into that

All religions have rules that everybody breaks everyday, regardless of their religious beliefs. If we can talk about eating pork on here (which the Bible prohibits), we should be able to talk about homosexuality.

Ugh, everyone always misunderstands

Nobody reads the bible (okay some do, I'm just generalizing so don't take insult) but they know what's 'good' and 'bad'. Being gay is apparently 'bad' in the bible and it's been around for hundreds of years of human history so that's why some people think of it as inappropriate: because they've been taught all their life by parents taught all their life that it's 'wrong'.

If it boils down to a religious thing, it's fine with me, then. That's what you were taught. It is NOT garbage.


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#259 2011-11-09 17:46:28

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

PlutoIsHades wrote:

imnotbob wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:


Look it up on Wikipedia.  There's a picture with that sign and a lot of other horrible signs.

That's even worse... I wish I could go there and protest against them. And picketing funerals? I know people do that, but that's terrible, too!
EDIT: OH MY GOD! Look up Matthew Shepard on Wikipedia.
Do it.

I looked him up.  Did you read what the WBC did at his funeral?!?!

Yeah, it was so sad!
Soon enough, anybody who's LGBT is going to have to have a private funeral  sad


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#260 2011-11-09 17:49:01

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

imnotbob wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

imnotbob wrote:


That's even worse... I wish I could go there and protest against them. And picketing funerals? I know people do that, but that's terrible, too!
EDIT: OH MY GOD! Look up Matthew Shepard on Wikipedia.
Do it.

I looked him up.  Did you read what the WBC did at his funeral?!?!

Yeah, it was so sad!
Soon enough, anybody who's LGBT is going to have to have a private funeral  sad

I'm transgender!  I don't want to have a private funeral!


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#261 2011-11-09 18:10:55

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

TVflea wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

But the WBC are a bunch of closed-minded idiots!

At first i thought you said the W3C

LOL


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#262 2011-11-09 18:31:00

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

Paddle2See wrote:

I've noticed a long off-topic spree here discussing Westboro Baptist Church.  It's only peripherally related to the LGBT topic and the remarks about it are starting to sound like a religious discussion.  Please keep away from that as we don't want to have to close the thread due to flaming.


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#263 2011-11-09 18:39:24

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

okay westboro is crazy creepy and stuff but we're not here to discuss that

religion doesn't even have to do much with lgbt stuff


i mean the original bible doesn't even mention it, much less say "you're evil if you're lgbt"

so let's stop judging people by their religion or sexual orientation mkay?


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#264 2011-11-09 18:45:21

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

Exactly. 100%.
People should have the right to be able to express who they are without other people waiting to attack them.


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#265 2011-11-09 19:25:37

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

Earthboundjeff wrote:

The legendary Donut speaks great wisdom.

Teehee xDD

I just HAD to come & help Albertt911 get the point across :3 He told me this had been bumped again ._. I just don't see how it's attention-seeking.
Self-harmers do so to let out emotions and punish themselves by inflicting pain.
LGBT - Because they aren't attracted to the opposite gender etc., and aren't afraid to stand up for their own sexual beliefs.

NOT attention-seeking. :3

@Pluto, thanks! :') And yeah, we're spreading awareness C:

It's really not attention-seeking at all, no (agreeeement).


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#266 2011-11-09 19:41:54

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

Earthboundjeff wrote:

Exactly. 100%.
People should have the right to be able to express who they are without other people waiting to attack them.

What if someone wants to attack people?


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#267 2011-11-11 15:16:34

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

veggieman001 wrote:

Earthboundjeff wrote:

Exactly. 100%.
People should have the right to be able to express who they are without other people waiting to attack them.

What if someone wants to attack people?

Then you have.. a conundrum.


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#268 2011-11-11 15:21:24

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

If someone has that right, then ok. But the victim also has the right to throw their attacker into a volcano.


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#269 2011-11-11 16:03:18

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

Earthboundjeff wrote:

If someone has that right, then ok. But the victim also has the right to throw their attacker into a volcano.

Uh, no.


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#270 2011-11-11 16:09:32

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

Andres-Vander wrote:

Earthboundjeff wrote:

If someone has that right, then ok. But the victim also has the right to throw their attacker into a volcano.

Uh, no.

Uh, yes.


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#271 2011-11-11 16:42:40

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:

Earthboundjeff wrote:

If someone has that right, then ok. But the victim also has the right to throw their attacker into a volcano.

Uh, no.

Uh, yes.

Can you read? He's saying gay people should be allowed to retaliate to people who attack them by murdering them. That's not okay.

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#272 2011-11-11 16:44:25

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

sanddude wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:

sanddude wrote:


-It is garbage.
-You were spoonfed if you're just believing it because you were taught it.
-I actually have legitimate points to back it up.
-I don't have to drop this. You can't tell me what to do.
-They are crazy idiots.
-If they think they're doing the right thing, then that's their problem.
-But I do agree that we shouldn't talk too much about religion on here.

You think it's garbage, I don't. How dare you call someone else's beliefs garbage?
If you think parents / the environment you grew up in don't affect your choices, you're wrong. Your 'legitimate points' aren't too legitimate. The Westboro Baptist Church people think people who don't believe in the same beliefs as them are as big of idiots as you think they are. And yes, you do have to drop this if you want to keep posting here. End of discussion about this. Back on topic.

I call people's beliefs garbage when they're garbage. I call sexist and racist people's beliefs garbage, but no one seems to have a problem with that. Yes, the environment you grew up in does affect your beliefs, but it's just ignorant to assume that their the right thing to believe just because your parents taught you it. I came up with my opinions on homosexuality on my own by doing the research and learning the facts.

You can't just say something someone believes is garbage. That's just...
ugh
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#273 2011-11-11 16:56:47

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

Andres-Vander wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:


Uh, no.

Uh, yes.

Can you read? He's saying gay people should be allowed to retaliate to people who attack them by murdering them. That's not okay.

It's called a metaphor ._.

Throw in volcano = retaliate/fight back


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#274 2011-11-11 17:09:49

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

Andres-Vander wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:


Uh, no.

Uh, yes.

Can you read? He's saying gay people should be allowed to retaliate to people who attack them by murdering them. That's not okay.

Duh I can read.  It's okay to fight back if someone's trying to kill you.
I thought everybody knew that.


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#275 2011-11-11 17:12:05

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Re: LGBT discussion thread

sanddude wrote:

I call people's beliefs garbage when they're garbage. I call sexist and racist people's beliefs garbage, but no one seems to have a problem with that. Yes, the environment you grew up in does affect your beliefs, but it's just ignorant to assume that their the right thing to believe just because your parents taught you it. I came up with my opinions on homosexuality on my own by doing the research and learning the facts.

You can think what you want.  But you're not going to win any converts to your argument using language like that.  It's disrespectful and not likely to lead to anything productive.  Please present the supporting facts for your argument without using generalizations and demeaning terms.

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Duh I can read.  It's okay to fight back if someone's trying to kill you.
I thought everybody knew that.

While self-defense is accepted as an argument in many courts, if you use excessive force, even in your own defense, you can be prosecuted.  A better approach (if it is feasible) is to go within the legal system and notify the authorities when you have a grievance against someone.   

For instance, if someone starts insulting you here in Scratch, and you respond in kind with insults of your own, it is not acceptable.  Self-defense is not accepted as a valid argument here - we would rather have the Scratch Team deal with the offender. 

But we're getting a bit off-topic with all this legal talk.


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