Scratch Is a GREAT tool for programming... But what about artwork? Have you ever noticed the pixels in the graphics? (the ones made in scratch anyways) That needs improving. And there has be a better image editing/creating program. More tools, easier rendering, effects, stuff like that. I went through a whole twenty minutes on Scratch making a shadow on text with a PAINTBRUSH when I could have just made a much better quality shadow from a few clicks in photoshop. These features are definitely needed for the next Scratch update.
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Yes, you are right.
Scratch is a great tool for programming. It was meant for programming.
But what about artwork? Scratch was not meant for that. Scratch was meant to be an educational tool to teach little kids programming.
You shouldn't be treating Scratch as an alternative to photoshop. Try gimp.
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kayybee wrote:
Yes, you are right.
Scratch is a great tool for programming. It was meant for programming.
But what about artwork? Scratch was not meant for that. Scratch was meant to be an educational tool to teach little kids programming.
You shouldn't be treating Scratch as an alternative to photoshop. Try gimp.
+1
But still, some extra features would be cool
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i dont have and dont know how to use GIMP... I am an expert at photoshop anyways.
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i have photoshop, yes. i would use it but its not working.
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Catmaster47 wrote:
Scratch Is a GREAT tool for programming... But what about artwork? Have you ever noticed the pixels in the graphics? (the ones made in scratch anyways) That needs improving. And there has be a better image editing/creating program. More tools, easier rendering, effects, stuff like that. I went through a whole twenty minutes on Scratch making a shadow on text with a PAINTBRUSH when I could have just made a much better quality shadow from a few clicks in photoshop. These features are definitely needed for the next Scratch update.
it would be cool but scratch isn't for games with complex graphics really
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prokohtu wrote:
Catmaster47 wrote:
Scratch Is a GREAT tool for programming... But what about artwork? Have you ever noticed the pixels in the graphics? (the ones made in scratch anyways) That needs improving. And there has be a better image editing/creating program. More tools, easier rendering, effects, stuff like that. I went through a whole twenty minutes on Scratch making a shadow on text with a PAINTBRUSH when I could have just made a much better quality shadow from a few clicks in photoshop. These features are definitely needed for the next Scratch update.
it would be cool but scratch isn't for games with complex graphics really
Says who? Everything should have good graphics.
I support for the original post
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efisher82 wrote:
prokohtu wrote:
Catmaster47 wrote:
Scratch Is a GREAT tool for programming... But what about artwork? Have you ever noticed the pixels in the graphics? (the ones made in scratch anyways) That needs improving. And there has be a better image editing/creating program. More tools, easier rendering, effects, stuff like that. I went through a whole twenty minutes on Scratch making a shadow on text with a PAINTBRUSH when I could have just made a much better quality shadow from a few clicks in photoshop. These features are definitely needed for the next Scratch update.
it would be cool but scratch isn't for games with complex graphics really
Says who? Everything should have good graphics.
I support for the original post
What if you couldn't care less about graphics? Like me?
Scratch is not meant to be a graphics program.
Does having good graphics teach you programming? No.
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you should just make the graphics in an external editor
jeesh people
next you'll be asking for multitrack music recording
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veggieman001 wrote:
you should just make the graphics in an external editor
jeesh people
next you'll be asking for multitrack music recording
(according to the topic owner, their photoshop is "broken" )
No, i don't think we'll need that. What we will need is an automatic project maker.
All you need to do is type in the rules of the game and it'll make it. That's definitely needed.
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kayybee wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
you should just make the graphics in an external editor
jeesh people
next you'll be asking for multitrack music recording(according to the topic owner, their photoshop is "broken"
)
No, i don't think we'll need that. What we will need is an automatic project maker.
All you need to do is type in the rules of the game and it'll make it. That's definitely needed.
That's like GameMaker
And I have a grudge against GameMaker
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schnrfl wrote:
kayybee wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
you should just make the graphics in an external editor
jeesh people
next you'll be asking for multitrack music recording(according to the topic owner, their photoshop is "broken"
)
No, i don't think we'll need that. What we will need is an automatic project maker.
All you need to do is type in the rules of the game and it'll make it. That's definitely needed.That's like GameMaker
And I have a grudge against GameMaker
ewww gamemaker
@kayybee they could learn gimp then
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veggieman001 wrote:
schnrfl wrote:
kayybee wrote:
(according to the topic owner, their photoshop is "broken"
)
No, i don't think we'll need that. What we will need is an automatic project maker.
All you need to do is type in the rules of the game and it'll make it. That's definitely needed.That's like GameMaker
And I have a grudge against GameMakerewww gamemaker
@kayybee they could learn gimp then
Yeah, I know, but according to the topic owner, "gimp is too hard"
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kayybee wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
schnrfl wrote:
That's like GameMaker
And I have a grudge against GameMakerewww gamemaker
@kayybee they could learn gimp thenYeah, I know, but according to the topic owner, "gimp is too hard"
How is "gimp too hard" but photoshop easy?
I consider it the exact opposite
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Scratch* could use better graphics, easier/yet more complex coding, and more memory! for those who insist on saying graphics are not what make a program, then you have never herd " a picture is worth a thousand words"!. Not "a scratch picture is worth 8 bits"! Don't get me wrong, i love scrtach. i use it to the fullest extent of my knowledge. I do use exturnal pictures, but the memory is taken up so fast my projects have to be half the size of what i want it be. granted this makes me think creativly to solve issues. but i should be more worried about what to put in my game/project/picture rather than "if" i will be able to get it in, or how well it will look.
darth castivious
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/DarthCastivious/1998914
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DarthCastivious wrote:
Gimp could use better graphics, easier/yet more complex coding, and more memory! for those who insist on saying graphics are not what make a program, then you have never herd " a picture is worth a thousand words"!. Not "a scratch picture is worth 8 bits"! Don't get me wrong, i love scrtach. i use it to the fullest extent of my knowledge. I do use exturnal pictures, but the memory is taken up so fast my projects have to be half the size of what i want it be. granted this makes me think creativly to solve issues. but i should be more worried about what to put in my game/project/picture rather than "if" i will be able to get it in, or how well it will look.
darth castivious
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/DarthCastivious/1998914
That was... a long post...
Gimp works fine enough, imo. The tools that it has are just what I need, even though I don't use it much any more
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@ Schnrfl: i did say gimp, but what i ment was scratch! sorry for the error
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Catmaster47 wrote:
i have photoshop, yes. i would use it but its not working.
Keep the images under 360x480 and don't use an alpha channel. Then it should work fine...
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kayybee wrote:
efisher82 wrote:
prokohtu wrote:
it would be cool but scratch isn't for games with complex graphics reallySays who? Everything should have good graphics.
I support for the original postWhat if you couldn't care less about graphics? Like me?
Scratch is not meant to be a graphics program.
Does having good graphics teach you programming? No.
that's not the point. Scratch seems to deliberately make the graphics bad, which shouldn't happen.
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Yes, Exactly. and my photoshop works now. oh, and I did make an image in photoshop and impoerted it into scratch, but of course, scratch makes good looking shadows into splotches of black.
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Catmaster47 wrote:
Yes, Exactly. and my photoshop works now.
oh, and I did make an image in photoshop and impoerted it into scratch, but of course, scratch makes good looking shadows into splotches of black.
That too. Like it tries to make the graphics worse. Totally bad.
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i understand the reason behind the lower quality of graphics has to do with file size. but if everyone and their grandma wants better graphics, why not allow it?
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