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AtomicBawm3 wrote:

Just because you're refusing to try and help people doesn't mean others should as well...sometimes all it takes is to just get it out, tell someone, even if it's not someone you know...and if someone does that here, the best way to respond is with comfort and advice, not "oh it's just another depressed person."  Yes there is a lot of depression in the world, but that doesn't mean we should give up helping people fight it.  In fact, NOT fighting it just makes it more depressing to people, it tells them that they are right, that life isn't worth living or caring about.  If you care about your own life, you should care about others' lives as well.

+1

Don't complain about other people's sadness.  That's not fair to them.  They've come to us for help and you're just telling them you don't care.

uh
no
but ok

-iNetMaster- wrote:

JJROCKER wrote:

I agree, sometimes, people will try to play with your feelings and these people are called trolls.

See, someone who makes sense.
*adds JJROCKER to friends list*

@AtomicBawm: still, we're not guidance councelers here

@veggie: still not giving out pineapple's huh

uh what
did i say something of pineapples
if i did please tell me
i suck at remembering things that don't have importance to me
c:

AtomicBawm3 wrote:

Just because you're refusing to try and help people doesn't mean others should as well...sometimes all it takes is to just get it out, tell someone, even if it's not someone you know...and if someone does that here, the best way to respond is with comfort and advice, not "oh it's just another depressed person."  Yes there is a lot of depression in the world, but that doesn't mean we should give up helping people fight it.  In fact, NOT fighting it just makes it more depressing to people, it tells them that they are right, that life isn't worth living or caring about.  If you care about your own life, you should care about others' lives as well.

Agree wholeheartedly (:

@cheddar - So I'm not allowed to share my feelings through Scratch? I've had counseling and spoken to people in real life about my feelings. However sometimes people need a different way to express emotion other than by talking to family or friends. Scratchers are basically strangers and have no prejudgements as they've never met you. This means they can give you good advice regardless of your gender, age, or location. I like that about this community.
I think it's better to hear from people our own age who can relate, not a ST member or mod.

08jackt wrote:

-iNetMaster- wrote:

where some scratcher was going to commit suicide 

i really hope i misread that

They saw that Steve Jobs had died and wanted to do suicide.

08jackt wrote:

-iNetMaster- wrote:

where some scratcher was going to commit suicide 

i really hope i misread that

I'm sure there's quite a few Scratchers that have tried/want to, sadly ._. Me included, but yeah. What werd said; someone was broken up about Steve Jobs dying =_=

veggieman001 wrote:

-iNetMaster- wrote:

JJROCKER wrote:

I agree, sometimes, people will try to play with your feelings and these people are called trolls.

See, someone who makes sense.
*adds JJROCKER to friends list*

@AtomicBawm: still, we're not guidance councelers here

@veggie: still not giving out pineapple's huh

uh what
did i say something of pineapples
if i did please tell me
i suck at remembering things that don't have importance to me
c:

I agree.

My mind has a capacity of about 100 megabytes :3

and a RAM of 1 kb C:

I have some shortterm memory loss

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

@cheddar - So I'm not allowed to share my feelings through Scratch? I've had counseling and spoken to people in real life about my feelings. However sometimes people need a different way to express emotion other than by talking to family or friends. Scratchers are basically strangers and have no prejudgements as they've never met you. This means they can give you good advice regardless of your gender, age, or location. I like that about this community.
I think it's better to hear from people our own age who can relate, not a ST member or mod.

I never said anything about wanting to share feelings on the Scratch Forums in my original post. I was referring to extreme cases such as those where a Scratcher is thinking of things like suicide.

While it is good to hear from people our own age, the Scratch community isn't really no good substitute for a guidance counselor, especially when it comes to extreme cases such as suicide threads or extreme case of depression that suggest a suicidal tone (not even the Scratch Team knows how to deal with that very well, which is why mods and admins refer the user to those who they know can help).

I get what you mean, but what about if the user has already had councelling and help from doctors and family? :L That's what I meant. Tat's what's happened to me only I never made a topic ^^;

On the Internet, you can never tell if the person is already going through some sort of counseling or treatment. And even if they are, the Scratch community (or ANY online community for that matter) is still not a good place substitute for getting the help and support needed through severe matters like that. If you want, you can contact the Scratch Team here if you need further explanation on the issue.

PlutoIsHades wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

I get what you mean, but what about if the user has already had councelling and help from doctors and family? :L That's what I meant. Tat's what's happened to me only I never made a topic ^^;

On the Internet, you can never tell if the person is already going through some sort of counseling or treatment. And even if they are, the Scratch community (or ANY online community for that matter) is still not a good place substitute for getting the help and support needed through severe matters like that. If you want, you can contact the Scratch Team here if you need further explanation on the issue.

Yeah, but if they have, and still need help, we should help them.  They come to us for a reason.  They don't ask for help just to mess with our minds.  Besides, they have no reason not to ask for our help.  I agree with TDD.  It's good to get help from other people your own age.  They've come to us for help and it would be bad to say, "Nope, you're wrong to feel the way you do and come to us for it."

It's also wrong to say "we can help you even if we don't know how to help you"; not only that, it can even be dangerous because there's no one here with the knowledge of how to handle the situation best, so we're really not helping them at all. That why suicide thread or threads with extreme serious matters are closed with redirects to sources that can help (such as a suicide hotline, for example) - in other words, it's better to say "we don't know how to help you, but we care for you so let us point you in the right direction to someone who can help you better than we can".

PlutoIsHades wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Yeah, but if they have, and still need help, we should help them.  They come to us for a reason.  They don't ask for help just to mess with our minds.  Besides, they have no reason not to ask for our help.  I agree with TDD.  It's good to get help from other people your own age.  They've come to us for help and it would be bad to say, "Nope, you're wrong to feel the way you do and come to us for it."

It's also wrong to say "we can help you even if we don't know how to help you"; not only that, it can even be dangerous because there's no one here with the knowledge of how to handle the situation best, so we're really not helping them at all. That why suicide thread or threads with extreme serious matters are closed with redirects to sources that can help (such as a suicide hotline, for example) - in other words, it's better to say "we don't know how to help you, but we care for you so let us point you in the right direction to someone who can help you better than we can".

I understand what you're saying, but I believe that, in addition, we should try to help as best we can.  Some people are sure to know about different things like that, and they could be a good help.  I get what you mean about extremely dangerous situations, but there are other topics that are slightly less serious that we can help with.

Of course, there are less serious topics where people can provide support on (like giving empathy when a person dies, for example). Never did I say that discussing feeling wasn't allowed, let me make that clear (again).

I am just referring to very serious cases like earlier stated (did you read my original post? I stated that it depends on the content in the thread; not all threads are closed). I am just solely referring to threads with content where none of us are in the best position to handle the situation. You will noticed that some thread are left open where mods and admins keep an eye on it (and will close it if it gets too volatile) whereas others (like a suicide thread) are closed right away.

You could just ignore the topics.

GameHutSoftware wrote:

laptop97 wrote:

GameHutSoftware wrote:

Dads are being [removed by moderator]? That's horrible!

You're kidding right? It was the word after it.

I am kidding. 

Fix'd.