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#1 2011-09-29 15:36:04

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Help Stop Spamming

There should be people called Spam Moderators, that focus on only stopping spam, and nothing else. It would give normal moderators more time to work on other things. For example, here's a mockup I was making:
http://db.tt/7ZzTspB1
The "Mark as Spam" button is used so that once that comment is marked as spam, that user can't comment until all his comment is marked as safe.

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Thank you all the supporters!

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#2 2011-09-29 15:41:25

ImagineIt
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Re: Help Stop Spamming

I disagree, what if it wasn't spam and it kept being marked as spam. That wouldn't be good. You could just report the comment.

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#3 2011-09-29 15:47:10

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

Yes, but only selected Scratch members can be a Spam Mod, and the Scratch team select them.


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#4 2011-09-29 16:24:45

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

WindowsExplorer wrote:

Yes, but only selected Scratch members can be a Spam Mod, and the Scratch team select them.

Oh! I support!

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#5 2011-09-29 16:26:51

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

Thanks! Also, support here!


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#6 2011-09-29 21:11:04

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

Support!


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#7 2011-09-30 00:26:00

slayerrobe7
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Re: Help Stop Spamming

i dissagree if only spam mods could do this they woulf=d have to cheak all post also everyone else would try to tell em about spam the would be overwelmed


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#8 2011-09-30 00:47:55

kayybee
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Re: Help Stop Spamming

Slayerrobe7, your post doesn't make any sense.

I'm pretty sure it's not even one sentence but you make it look like one.

Are you trying to say:

I disagree. If only spam mods could do this, they would have to check all posts [er... comments]. Also everyone else would try to tell them about spam. They would be overwhelmed.

Well... People could still report them, and the whole point is that they won't be overwhelmed. By taking the responsibility of the job, they should be able to handle anything.

@Suggestion: I support, if there are a couple of modifications:

I'm one of them (just kidding, but I'd like to be.)
There's a mark as spam button along with the report as inappropriate. The mark as spam sends the notification (not the regular notification) to the spam mod. Then, the spam mod will approve it. (You might have already said this, but I didn't quite get where the report button on your mock up went, so I just said this)

How about, instead of automatically disabling one's account from commenting, it requires three of them. (one person could do three) and that way accidents of pressing the wrong comment or something won't affect, but if a person actually does three (maybe because they hate a person or something) and the person isn't a spammer, then the consequences are more severe.

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#9 2011-09-30 02:50:30

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

kayybee wrote:

How about, instead of automatically disabling one's account from commenting, it requires three of them. (one person could do three) and that way accidents of pressing the wrong comment or something won't affect, but if a person actually does three (maybe because they hate a person or something) and the person isn't a spammer, then the consequences are more severe.

No, because the Spam Mod can only be people selected by ST, and if they just marked a comment as spam cause the hate the person, then that user will get ban. It also sends a notification to the ST if a comment is marked as spam, so ST can review it two.  BTW, when a comment get's marked, all that user's comments disappear until he/she's comments are marked as safe.


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#10 2011-09-30 10:11:25

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

WindowsExplorer wrote:

kayybee wrote:

How about, instead of automatically disabling one's account from commenting, it requires three of them. (one person could do three) and that way accidents of pressing the wrong comment or something won't affect, but if a person actually does three (maybe because they hate a person or something) and the person isn't a spammer, then the consequences are more severe.

No, because the Spam Mod can only be people selected by ST, and if they just marked a comment as spam cause the hate the person, then that user will get ban. It also sends a notification to the ST if a comment is marked as spam, so ST can review it two.  BTW, when a comment get's marked, all that user's comments disappear until he/she's comments are marked as safe.

But the problem is, the Spam mod can't view each individual project (as there's 2000000) over and over again, so they need the users to report spam to a spam mod.

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#11 2011-09-30 10:47:30

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

I have spam too :

[removed by moderator. Mode Edit: Please don't repost messages posted by commercial spammers - we don't want the spam to be picked up by search engines, and not reposting the spam helps with that.  smile ]

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#12 2011-09-30 11:18:44

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

KrIsMa wrote:

I have spam too :

[removed by moderator, see post above for reason]
(reply) | (flag as inappropriate) | (x) | (mark as spam)

See, that button would be very handy. And Spam Mods could recieve spam reports!

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#13 2011-09-30 11:41:32

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

It just seems like an extra thing to program in that doesn't seem all that useful, especially when there's a button that does the same thing right beside it.


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#14 2011-09-30 15:52:54

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

Andres-Vander wrote:

It just seems like an extra thing to program in that doesn't seem all that useful, especially when there's a button that does the same thing right beside it.

But there's going to be spam mods too, not just the button.

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#15 2011-09-30 15:55:45

henley
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Re: Help Stop Spamming

WindowsExplorer wrote:

There should be people called Spam Moderators, that focus on only stopping spam, and nothing else. It would give normal moderators more time to work on other things. For example, here's a mockup I was making:
http://db.tt/7ZzTspB1
The "Mark as Spam" button is used so that once that comment is marked as spam, that user can't comment until all his comment is marked as safe.

Supporters:

ImagineIt
Dinoclor

I didn’t have time to read any of the replies, so I’m not sure if someone has already said this. This describes Moderators and the Scratch Team. It would be wasteful to have Moderators directed only toward spam. And this would cause bundles of spam on the forums because of New Scratchers asking topics such as “how can i becum a spam modurater!!!!!!?!?!??”

Or at least, that’s how I imagine it.


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#16 2011-09-30 16:45:00

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

Support!

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#17 2011-10-01 00:49:29

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

Against spamming!


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#18 2011-10-01 09:11:56

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

I support.

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#19 2011-10-19 09:49:45

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

Yeah, we've recently been attacked by a pesky spam robot. We need to do some stuff to to make it harder for spam-robots to attack us, so we're working on it. For now, the best way to help is just by flagging any commercial spam as soon as you see it - that helps us get it all down as quick as possible. Thanks!


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#20 2011-10-20 15:28:45

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

anyone else thinks it's ironic that WindowsExplorer is AGAINST spam?  tongue
just joking  big_smile

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#21 2011-10-21 18:27:16

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

<when green flag clicked><say[ you can delete comments if its your project ya know.

now ya know  big_smile

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#22 2011-10-27 17:31:45

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

Good idea!  I hate spam.  Ppl always go like-

comment- this

comment- is

comment- cool

I hate when ppl do that!


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#23 2011-10-27 17:44:58

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Re: Help Stop Spamming

WindowsExplorer wrote:

The "Mark as Spam" button is used so that once that comment is marked as spam, that user can't comment until all his comment is marked as safe.

The spam moderator part is good but what if somebody just clicked the "mark as spam" button just to click it? That would be unfair. Example:
Comment: This is cool!
Mean person: It is not! I'm going to mark this as spam!!!!!!
Now the comment is marked as spam and he/she has to wait until his/her comment is safe.
Correct me if I'm wrong, sometimes i don't get the concept of things lol  big_smile
But overall it's a good idea


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