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#1 2009-01-14 20:13:31

zbugni
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Registered: 2008-12-13
Posts: 500+

Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

You know (or at least have heard of) hello 147 and frankfert.  No? They are the guys who cheated to get to the front page.  Here's some info.

Frankfert: He cheated to get to the front page by creating the "Cats" series.  The first project was just a picture of a cat.  The next he made a remix that was the same only with two cats.  The next had three cats.  The next had four, and so on.



Hello 147: Like Frankfert, he remixed his own project 40 times.  But unlike him, he made projects with the word HELLO changing the color effect.

Conclusion: I need a way to stop him (one person, I think, he just made a new account) from ruining Scratch.  Any ideas?

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#2 2009-01-14 20:28:16

big-bang
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Registered: 2008-02-21
Posts: 1000+

Re: Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

zbugni wrote:

You know (or at least have heard of) hello 147 and frankfert.  No? They are the guys who cheated to get to the front page.  Here's some info.

Frankfert: He cheated to get to the front page by creating the "Cats" series.  The first project was just a picture of a cat.  The next he made a remix that was the same only with two cats.  The next had three cats.  The next had four, and so on.



Hello 147: Like Frankfert, he remixed his own project 40 times.  But unlike him, he made projects with the word HELLO changing the color effect.

Conclusion: I need a way to stop him (one person, I think, he just made a new account) from ruining Scratch.  Any ideas?

A lot of people are blaming hello147 on EVERY top remixed scam. This is a well-known issue. We do not need one more thread saying this is urgent. It is. Pretty soon the top remixed section will have to be removed. Good riddance.


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#3 2009-01-15 08:56:09

BWOG
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Registered: 2008-09-19
Posts: 1000+

Re: Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

big-bang wrote:

zbugni wrote:

You know (or at least have heard of) hello 147 and frankfert.  No? They are the guys who cheated to get to the front page.  Here's some info.

Frankfert: He cheated to get to the front page by creating the "Cats" series.  The first project was just a picture of a cat.  The next he made a remix that was the same only with two cats.  The next had three cats.  The next had four, and so on.



Hello 147: Like Frankfert, he remixed his own project 40 times.  But unlike him, he made projects with the word HELLO changing the color effect.

Conclusion: I need a way to stop him (one person, I think, he just made a new account) from ruining Scratch.  Any ideas?

A lot of people are blaming hello147 on EVERY top remixed scam. This is a well-known issue. We do not need one more thread saying this is urgent. It is. Pretty soon the top remixed section will have to be removed. Good riddance.

and then there will be some other scam like downloading your project multiple times(unless it only counts the first time) and a loveit scam by making lots of accounts and clicking love it on a project

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#4 2009-01-15 09:54:15

Mayhem
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Registered: 2007-05-26
Posts: 1000+

Re: Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

Should be fairly straightforward to have remixes only counted if they are remixes by 3rd parties.


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#5 2009-01-15 18:00:21

hmnwilson
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Registered: 2007-07-04
Posts: 1000+

Re: Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

Mayhem wrote:

Should be fairly straightforward to have remixes only counted if they are remixes by 3rd parties.

That would be a good way to fix it! As long as people don't start creating lots of accounts.


I'm taking a break from Scratch until 2.0 comes out. Any messages sent between then and now probably won't be read - sorry.
(Oct. 20, 2011)

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#6 2009-01-15 18:37:22

big-bang
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Registered: 2008-02-21
Posts: 1000+

Re: Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

hmnwilson wrote:

Mayhem wrote:

Should be fairly straightforward to have remixes only counted if they are remixes by 3rd parties.

That would be a good way to fix it! As long as people don't start creating lots of accounts.

Then make a one-time-only IP address membership thing! Of course, then Bluestribute...


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#7 2009-01-15 20:06:56

BWOG
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Registered: 2008-09-19
Posts: 1000+

Re: Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

big-bang wrote:

hmnwilson wrote:

Mayhem wrote:

Should be fairly straightforward to have remixes only counted if they are remixes by 3rd parties.

That would be a good way to fix it! As long as people don't start creating lots of accounts.

Then make a one-time-only IP address membership thing! Of course, then Bluestribute...

...would have to go to the library to make a new account!

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#8 2009-01-15 22:37:32

hmnwilson
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Registered: 2007-07-04
Posts: 1000+

Re: Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

BWOG wrote:

big-bang wrote:

hmnwilson wrote:


That would be a good way to fix it! As long as people don't start creating lots of accounts.

Then make a one-time-only IP address membership thing! Of course, then Bluestribute...

...would have to go to the library to make a new account!

Or maybe there could be a limit to how many accounts you can make.


I'm taking a break from Scratch until 2.0 comes out. Any messages sent between then and now probably won't be read - sorry.
(Oct. 20, 2011)

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#9 2009-01-16 10:37:32

BWOG
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Registered: 2008-09-19
Posts: 1000+

Re: Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

hmnwilson wrote:

BWOG wrote:

big-bang wrote:


Then make a one-time-only IP address membership thing! Of course, then Bluestribute...

...would have to go to the library to make a new account!

Or maybe there could be a limit to how many accounts you can make.

like per email! except that then there would be too many email accounts, and there's the fact that you can make them up like uudygydf@jufiogugufyfyf.com

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#10 2009-01-16 19:04:30

hmnwilson
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Registered: 2007-07-04
Posts: 1000+

Re: Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

BWOG wrote:

hmnwilson wrote:

BWOG wrote:


...would have to go to the library to make a new account!

Or maybe there could be a limit to how many accounts you can make.

like per email! except that then there would be too many email accounts, and there's the fact that you can make them up like uudygydf@jufiogugufyfyf.com

But they can make more email addresses.


I'm taking a break from Scratch until 2.0 comes out. Any messages sent between then and now probably won't be read - sorry.
(Oct. 20, 2011)

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#11 2009-01-16 19:12:57

bosox397
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Registered: 2008-02-17
Posts: 1000+

Re: Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

Yeah, they should just remove top remixed, and then if we catch someone who did a scam we just have the scratch team delete the project (or take it off the front page  big_smile )


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#12 2009-02-15 14:08:58

animalia
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Registered: 2008-11-02
Posts: 70

Re: Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

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#13 2009-02-15 17:44:40

woahfreaky
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Registered: 2009-01-30
Posts: 72

Re: Hello 147 / frankfert Cheating

Actually, Bluestribute got IP banned ^^ yet I'm still here  wink . Do the IP thing. It will work. and if it's undeserved, the Scratch Team will understnad


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