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#1 2011-05-19 08:20:56

Hardmath123
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A question about the End-user license agreement

This thread is not really advanced. But since it deals with a mod (well, sort of, see below), I put it here.

I'm making a tool for making a Scratch mod. It will be coded in HTML, and posted online on a website, along with a downloadable version. It's name is Scramble.

I was wondering if the EULA applies.

•you cannot use the word "Scratch" to refer to derivative works (except in the phrase "Based on Scratch from the MIT Media Laboratory"),
No problem

•you cannot use the Scratch logo or the official (copyrighted) Scratch cat in derivative works,
Can I add the Scratch cat below the header of the HTML?

•you cannot implement the ability to upload projects to any MIT Scratch website (currently, http://scratch.mit.edu),
No problem

copies or derivative works must retain the Scratch copyright notice and license, and
you must make the source code for derivative works available.
How ablout for this? It isn't a 'derivative'...


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#2 2011-05-19 08:24:25

Pecola1
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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

Derivative work means work that will gain money to you right? If so you are probably fine, just don't make us pay for your mod. XD


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#3 2011-05-19 09:13:32

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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

It's not a mod, though. It's a tool. Like a Paint Editor that is optimized for Scratch (I don't want to give the exact use yet, it's a surprise  big_smile ).


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#4 2011-05-19 09:18:41

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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

Hardmath123 wrote:

It's not a mod, though. It's a tool. Like a Paint Editor that is optimized for Scratch (I don't want to give the exact use yet, it's a surprise  big_smile ).

I have thought abut making a thing like paint using the source code, after erasing all of the scratch part, but I found out, I'm not ready yet. LOL XD


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#5 2011-05-19 09:36:34

scimonster
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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

So does it belong here or not?

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#6 2011-05-19 10:06:39

Pecola1
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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

scimonster wrote:

So does it belong here or not?

It isn't a mod.


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#7 2011-05-19 10:21:46

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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

Pecola1 wrote:

scimonster wrote:

So does it belong here or not?

It isn't a mod.

If mod share is listed, then Scramble should be too. I'll probably be done with it really soon, I just need to file in all the Scratch blocks, and code them. That is a lot of work, but it requires quite little thought  big_smile .


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#8 2011-05-19 12:15:37

LS97
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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

@Pecola1: Derivative means coming from something (in this case Scratch), and not that you gain money from it (profitable).

Anyway, from what I understand, your work is not a derivative of Scratch. It's a tool built in HTML which has absolutely no relation with Scratch -- or does it?

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#9 2011-05-19 12:22:44

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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

LS97 wrote:

@Pecola1: Derivative means coming from something (in this case Scratch), and not that you gain money from it (profitable).

Anyway, from what I understand, your work is not a derivative of Scratch. It's a tool built in HTML which has absolutely no relation with Scratch -- or does it?

No, I think he wants to make a paint program based off the Scratch paint editor. He also wants to know if he's allowed to use the cat in his site, I think.  smile

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#10 2011-05-19 12:43:59

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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

LS97 wrote:

@Pecola1: Derivative means coming from something (in this case Scratch), and not that you gain money from it (profitable).

Anyway, from what I understand, your work is not a derivative of Scratch. It's a tool built in HTML which has absolutely no relation with Scratch -- or does it?

You're right. Well, the relation is that it compiles to MIT SmallTalk, so it can help make mods.


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#11 2011-05-19 13:37:35

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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

Hardmath123 wrote:

LS97 wrote:

@Pecola1: Derivative means coming from something (in this case Scratch), and not that you gain money from it (profitable).

Anyway, from what I understand, your work is not a derivative of Scratch. It's a tool built in HTML which has absolutely no relation with Scratch -- or does it?

You're right. Well, the relation is that it compiles to MIT SmallTalk, so it can help make mods.

Smalltalk shouldn't be any problem -- unless you mean that it automatically edits the Scratch source to produce a finished image based on Scratch  wink

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#12 2011-05-19 15:25:41

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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

LS97 wrote:

@Pecola1: Derivative means coming from something (in this case Scratch), and not that you gain money from it (profitable).

Oh... I somehow knew that, just I wasn't making the sounds in my head and though it was pronounced dare-ive-it-av or something... I know what the word meant but I only knew what the word sounded like meant... but I didn't know how to pronounce it so I didn't know what it meant. I think I may be confusing you. o.0


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#13 2011-05-20 11:44:00

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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

Pecola1 wrote:

LS97 wrote:

@Pecola1: Derivative means coming from something (in this case Scratch), and not that you gain money from it (profitable).

Oh... I somehow knew that, just I wasn't making the sounds in my head and though it was pronounced dare-ive-it-av or something... I know what the word meant but I only knew what the word sounded like meant... but I didn't know how to pronounce it so I didn't know what it meant. I think I may be confusing you. o.0

It's OK, I understand  smile

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#14 2011-05-20 13:08:07

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Re: A question about the End-user license agreement

LS97 wrote:

Pecola1 wrote:

LS97 wrote:

@Pecola1: Derivative means coming from something (in this case Scratch), and not that you gain money from it (profitable).

Oh... I somehow knew that, just I wasn't making the sounds in my head and though it was pronounced dare-ive-it-av or something... I know what the word meant but I only knew what the word sounded like meant... but I didn't know how to pronounce it so I didn't know what it meant. I think I may be confusing you. o.0

It's OK, I understand  smile

WOW, I hardly did myself.  lol


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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