Picture this. You work extremely on a scratch project. It might even become popular. Suddenly, tons of people remix it, and get fame off of it, though they only did simple changes to it.
I wish we could turn on and off the options for people to remix our project. I just feel like in a way there stealing it.
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kluspossible wrote:
Picture this. You work extremely on a scratch project. It might even become popular. Suddenly, tons of people remix it, and get fame off of it, though they only did simple changes to it.
I wish we could turn on and off the options for people to remix our project. I just feel like in a way there stealing it.
Interesting. How would you feel if people who remix did not get fame off of it?
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kluspossible wrote:
Picture this. You work extremely on a scratch project. It might even become popular. Suddenly, tons of people remix it, and get fame off of it, though they only did simple changes to it.
I wish we could turn on and off the options for people to remix our project. I just feel like in a way there stealing it.
Sorry, creative commons licenses fail.
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12three wrote:
kluspossible wrote:
Picture this. You work extremely on a scratch project. It might even become popular. Suddenly, tons of people remix it, and get fame off of it, though they only did simple changes to it.
I wish we could turn on and off the options for people to remix our project. I just feel like in a way there stealing it.Sorry, creative commons licenses fail.
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Yeah, unless they were to change it.
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never going to change
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See part 2. This is pretty much the same thing; it goes against the basic philosophy of Scratch. We should encourage creativity.
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Harakou: He/she has a point. If you spent FOREVER working on a project to get no fame while watchign someone else get fame for a small change + remix, how would you feel?
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If that happens, it should be told to the ST via contact us link or something like that, and then the duplicate will be deleted and removed from the FP, and the first one would be featured or something like that.
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kayybee wrote:
If that happens, it should be told to the ST via contact us link or something like that, and then the duplicate will be deleted and removed from the FP, and the first one would be featured or something like that.
Kayybee is right, but they might not get featured.
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kayybee wrote:
No, I meant that should be the suggestion instead.
Oh. I don't get what you're suggesting there though...
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kluspossible wrote:
Picture this. You work extremely on a scratch project. It might even become popular. Suddenly, tons of people remix it, and get fame off of it, though they only did simple changes to it.
I wish we could turn on and off the options for people to remix our project. I just feel like in a way there stealing it.
They should ban remixes, or have an option for whether or not you can remix chosen by the creator.
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icerosethecat wrote:
kluspossible wrote:
Picture this. You work extremely on a scratch project. It might even become popular. Suddenly, tons of people remix it, and get fame off of it, though they only did simple changes to it.
I wish we could turn on and off the options for people to remix our project. I just feel like in a way there stealing it.They should ban remixes, or have an option for whether or not you can remix chosen by the creator.
1. That goes against the Scratch's "imagine • program • SHARE"
2. That's exactly what the user is suggesting.
3. That's exactly what we're discussing.
That's basically a step backward from where we are.
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i think people should just have to ask for permission from the creator before they can remix it.
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goldenwolfpro wrote:
i think people should just have to ask for permission from the creator before they can remix it.
You'd have to change the license.
Yeah, this is true, but another one of scratch's annoying parts that we can't changed. Cube guy is a famous example of this.
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What If It Uses WeDo,Pictoboard Or/And Microphone?
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kayybee wrote:
icerosethecat wrote:
kluspossible wrote:
Picture this. You work extremely on a scratch project. It might even become popular. Suddenly, tons of people remix it, and get fame off of it, though they only did simple changes to it.
I wish we could turn on and off the options for people to remix our project. I just feel like in a way there stealing it.They should ban remixes, or have an option for whether or not you can remix chosen by the creator.
1. That goes against the Scratch's "imagine • program • SHARE"
2. That's exactly what the user is suggesting.
3. That's exactly what we're discussing.
That's basically a step backward from where we are.
'Kay. See what you mean. Thanks for telling me.
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kayybee wrote:
icerosethecat wrote:
kluspossible wrote:
Picture this. You work extremely on a scratch project. It might even become popular. Suddenly, tons of people remix it, and get fame off of it, though they only did simple changes to it.
I wish we could turn on and off the options for people to remix our project. I just feel like in a way there stealing it.They should ban remixes, or have an option for whether or not you can remix chosen by the creator.
1. That goes against the Scratch's "imagine • program • SHARE"
2. That's exactly what the user is suggesting.
3. That's exactly what we're discussing.
That's basically a step backward from where we are.
But I always saw the word SHARE as in you get to share your OWN ideas, not other peoples'. Ah well. I'll have to ask the Scratch Team. I know they believe in remixing, but just the whole remixing thing... bothers me. Yeah, that's the way to put it.
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icerosethecat wrote:
kayybee wrote:
icerosethecat wrote:
They should ban remixes, or have an option for whether or not you can remix chosen by the creator.
1. That goes against the Scratch's "imagine • program • SHARE"
2. That's exactly what the user is suggesting.
3. That's exactly what we're discussing.
That's basically a step backward from where we are.But I always saw the word SHARE as in you get to share your OWN ideas, not other peoples'. Ah well. I'll have to ask the Scratch Team. I know they believe in remixing, but just the whole remixing thing... bothers me. Yeah, that's the way to put it.
If you don't like the remixing part of Scratch, here's a quote from cheddargirl that's in the Lovely Sticky of Resolved Suggestions :3
cheddargirl wrote:
Honestly, if I didn't want other people taking the art and music form my projects, I would post my projects on my own personal site and set my own Creative Commons/copyright license or not upload my project to the Scratch website at all.
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Chrischb wrote:
icerosethecat wrote:
kayybee wrote:
1. That goes against the Scratch's "imagine • program • SHARE"
2. That's exactly what the user is suggesting.
3. That's exactly what we're discussing.
That's basically a step backward from where we are.But I always saw the word SHARE as in you get to share your OWN ideas, not other peoples'. Ah well. I'll have to ask the Scratch Team. I know they believe in remixing, but just the whole remixing thing... bothers me. Yeah, that's the way to put it.
If you don't like the remixing part of Scratch, here's a quote from cheddargirl that's in the Lovely Sticky of Resolved Suggestions :3
cheddargirl wrote:
Honestly, if I didn't want other people taking the art and music form my projects, I would post my projects on my own personal site and set my own Creative Commons/copyright license or not upload my project to the Scratch website at all.
Huh. Good point. I don't mind it if you remix and take some of it, I'm just sick of people that take ALL of it and recolor it. Then they call it theirs and don't give credit to you at all.
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Has been brought out hundreds of times... *sigh* this kind of thing is not going to happen because Scratch motto is "Imagine . Program. Share and remixed projects usually don't get featured, the original ones do.
But look on the bright side! You might even get into "Top Remixed" section!
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If I didn't want people to remix my projects, I'd just put them on my website.
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I dissagree, this takes the "share" part out of Scratch. If you can't let people remix your projects then the "share" part is only a partial truth.
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