Scratch

Yah learn some'ing every other year, don't you?

Wow! I never knew that!

littletonkslover wrote:

might be true but you will never know now will you

It's simply history, saying that would be like saying you never know if WWII happened if you weren't there to see it.

GirWaffles64 wrote:

Did you know the modern image of Santa Claus came from Coca Cola?

Sad 

Er, no it didn't.

GirWaffles64 wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

GirWaffles64 wrote:

Did you know the modern image of Santa Claus came from Coca Cola?

Sad 

Er, no it didn't.

Not Santa Claus himself, but the established look of Santa Claus

Er, no it didn't.

GirWaffles64 wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

GirWaffles64 wrote:

Not Santa Claus himself, but the established look of Santa Claus

Er, no it didn't.

Proof or it didn't happen
http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/heritage/cokelore_santa.html

From the History Channel.

1:20.

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Kileymeister wrote:

littletonkslover wrote:

might be true but you will never know now will you

It's simply history, saying that would be like saying you never know if WWII happened if you weren't there to see it.

i think its a little different

GirWaffles64 wrote:

Whatever, it's dumb to fight.

Good idea.  Even if you'd proven me wrong instead I think it's a good idea to let this drop.

@littletonkslover:  It is I guess, because this is a bit more speculation, but facts are facts.

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Nexstudent wrote:

Actually this is incorrect. Christmas was started waaaay before 1800. It was based on the Winter Sulces (SP), which the Pagans celebrated. Its always had to do with Jesus.

I never said it started in 1800.  I said it happened long before then, but was literally canceled before the 1800's.

And no, it did not originally have anything to do with Jesus.  The very fact you used the word "pagan" shows you agree it did not deal with Christianity.

(To those who do not know, "pagan" means in its most basic form polytheist, but has more connotations than that.)

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It was originally the celebration of the Roman winter solstice, and the Sun was considered "reborn". The celebration of the Nativity of Christ was chosen to be placed at this time probably because it was exactly nine months after March 25th, which is supposedly when Jesus was conceived, as held by tradition.

Of course we'll never know when he was actually born. All we know was it was 2010 years ago.

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GirWaffles64 wrote:

Did you know the modern image of Santa Claus came from Coca Cola?

Sad 

so that's why santa has the same colors as coca cola.

Kileymeister wrote:

I've recently learned that originally, Christmas had absolutely nothing to do with Christianity or Jesus Christ.  Not a thing.  In fact, there have been two separate Christmas holidays, both of which had nothing to do with even religion.  The Church of England actually disapproved of the holiday entirely, and literally canceled it some time before the 1800's.

The only reason Jesus was implemented into it was because ministers who did not approve of secular Christmas decided to make it more religious so that it would not be blasphemy to take a day off.  But this was long, long after the holiday was invented.

Well, that's an interesting theory.  But I don't see how a holiday with "Christ" in it's name originally had "nothing to do with Christianity or Jesus Christ".  That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.  Can you point us towards your source for this information?

Of course, there were Pagan celebrations around the Solstice that predate the birth of Christ.  But they wouldn't have been called Christmas.