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#1 2010-12-19 21:04:06

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X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

X=X+1. How can a number equal itself plus 1? Would this be the formula for infinity?


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#2 2010-12-19 21:06:17

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

It's simply extraneous, or has an imaginary answer.

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#3 2010-12-19 21:06:29

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

find X and add 1 to it  tongue

yeah if X isn't any particular number, then this equation makes no sense.

I just won the award for Colonel Obvious

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#4 2010-12-19 21:07:28

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

militarydudes wrote:

find X and add 1 to it  tongue

yeah if you don't know what X is, then this equation makes no sense.

The purpose of the equation is to find X.

Like:
x-3=5
+3    +3
x=8

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#5 2010-12-19 21:08:18

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

Me and my friends figured out how life is an illusion (don't worry, this is relevant)
I will type it up after I find it.


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#6 2010-12-19 21:10:16

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

Well, let's see. I'm replacing X for 3.
3=3+1
Maybe the first 3 is a variable for the next greatest number. I doubt that though.


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#7 2010-12-19 21:10:54

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

midnightleopard wrote:

X=X+1. How can a number equal itself plus 1? Would this be the formula for infinity?

well if youre solving equations to see if its possible

x=x+1
-x=-x
0=1

and therefore the equation is useless and incorrect
problem solved
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#8 2010-12-19 21:11:16

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

Infinity/1 * 1/Infinity = 1 AND = Infinity
^that's a fraction
Infinity/1 * 2/Infinity = 2 = Infinity
1 = Infinity
2 = Infinity
1 = 2

This means that math is undefined. All science is based off of math. Life is an illusion.









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#9 2010-12-19 21:14:10

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

The answer is false.


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#10 2010-12-19 21:14:44

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

roger- wrote:

Infinity/1 * 1/Infinity = 1 AND = Infinity
^that's a fraction
Infinity/1 * 2/Infinity = 2 = Infinity
1 = Infinity
2 = Infinity
1 = 2

This means that math is undefined. All science is based off of math. Life is an illusion.
tongue

(infinity/infinity) is not equal to infinity.

(infinity/1) * (2/infinity) is not equal to 2.

Check your math.

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#11 2010-12-19 21:21:13

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

This is definitely not true.

Code:

 x= x+1
-x -x
 0=   1

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#12 2010-12-19 21:23:45

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

kayybee wrote:

This is definitely not true.

Code:

 x= x+1
-x -x
 0=   1

well thats what i said
but you presented it nicer

so thanks i guess


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#13 2010-12-19 21:26:22

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

kayybee wrote:

This is definitely not true.

Code:

 x= x+1
-x -x
 0=   1
+x   +x
x= 1+x
+y  +y
x+y=1+x+y

Yeah... I got nothin

I know it's not possible, I just like being argumentative.  lol

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#14 2010-12-19 21:30:15

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

Well lets rearrange the equation.

x = x + 1
Eliminate the x'es (One on each side so we can do it)

0 = 1

On another note 0 does = 1

0 * 0 = 1 * 0
Eliminate one zero from each side

0 = 1

For the first equation the only thing I can think of that would fit would be infinity and to even get into any of these situations you have to divide by zero. Even if it is 0/0.


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#15 2010-12-19 21:31:16

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

midnightleopard wrote:

X=X+1. How can a number equal itself plus 1? Would this be the formula for infinity?

That gives you 0=1, so the solution for X is a null (empty) set. Simple.

But, no, it wouldn't be the "formula" for infinity, because then you can manipulate it to do all sorts of weird things.

Now, another question.

1/0

Could THAT be the "formula" for infinity?


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#16 2010-12-19 21:35:05

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

antimonyarsenide wrote:

midnightleopard wrote:

X=X+1. How can a number equal itself plus 1? Would this be the formula for infinity?

That gives you 0=1, so the solution for X is a null (empty) set. Simple.

But, no, it wouldn't be the "formula" for infinity, because then you can manipulate it to do all sorts of weird things.

Now, another question.

1/0

Could THAT be the "formula" for infinity?

No, because 0 * infinity is equal to 0.  It's not possible for zero to be fit into a 1.

Because, after all, division is simply how many times a number fits into another.  0 never fits into a number, ever. 

Technically not even 0/0 works, because inversely, that is equal to literally every number ever, and therefor undefined. Any number besides 0 is just undefined.

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#17 2010-12-19 21:40:09

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

Alright! *knuckle crack*

Code:

x=x+1
0=1
0/0=1/0
undefined=undefined

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#18 2010-12-19 21:48:20

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

kayybee wrote:

OR...

Code:

x=x+1
0=1
0^0=1^0
undefined=undefined

Zero is weird, isn't it...

1^0 still equals 1. Ninja'd  \/

On an unrelated note to the above:

My assumption on 0 divided by 0 wrote:

0/0 = every number in existence ∴= undefined.

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#19 2010-12-19 21:49:50

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

kayybee wrote:

OR...

Code:

x=x+1
0=1
0^0=1^0
undefined=undefined

Zero is weird, isn't it...

Actually...

Code:

x = x + 1
0 = 1
0 ^ 0 = 1 ^ 0
undefined != 1

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Darn it! Ninja'd!

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#20 2010-12-19 22:16:48

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

set x=0  and  second x = 1

x = x-1
0= 1-1
0 = 0

This just proves that nothing is impossible :cool:

EDIT: I didn't know people still Ninja'd :o

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#21 2010-12-19 22:17:31

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

steppenwulf wrote:

set x=0  and  second x = 1

x = x-1
0= 1-1
0 = 0

This just proves that nothing is impossible  cool

But x is always the same value.  It would have to be X=Y-1 (or vice versa), which is a valid function.

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#22 2010-12-19 22:18:36

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

Kileymeister wrote:

steppenwulf wrote:

set x=0  and  second x = 1

x = x-1
0= 1-1
0 = 0

This just proves that nothing is impossible  cool

But x is always the same value.  It would have to be X=Y-1, which is a valid function.

I was just kidding lol.


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#23 2010-12-20 02:13:40

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

you get an empty set. in other words.


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#24 2010-12-20 02:52:14

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

I guess it has to be infinity because:
∞=∞+1 so x=∞
But it doesn't really count since ∞ isn't actually a number.

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#25 2010-12-20 03:04:42

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Re: X=X+1: an obnoxious equation

It's true that ∞ = ∞+1, but...
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