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#1 2010-11-23 12:21:06

markocrush
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A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

Listen up guys, this is especially for scratch pros. WE need a 3D engine!!!! Aren't u guys just tired of making 2d games!!!!! NOWs time for 3D games! but how???? So i wont u guys to get off ur [removed] and help me to convine MIT to make a 3D modelling engine for scratch. IS THAT OK!!!!

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#2 2010-11-23 13:10:39

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

Well 3D is nice, but if you want 3D then maybe try other Pl's (programming languages)
Because if we had 3D then we would have to have 2 sections, scratch 3D and Scratch 2D. then theres the fact that they would have to make scratch up again and everything would get complex.

Scratch is for starters, not pros


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#3 2010-11-23 13:11:01

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

For Scratch-like kids programming languages, you might like to try Alice, or StarLogo TNG. Both of these programs use Scratch-style block scripts, and they're in 3D - perhaps they're what you're looking for?  smile

Or, it might be a fun challenge to try and create 3D in Scratch - there's a helpful tutorial here.


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#4 2010-11-23 16:02:58

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

Anyone could do it.

But the laaaag.......


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#5 2010-11-23 16:18:32

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

I know how to make 3D games in Scratch. It just takes a lot of patience, math, and variables.


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#6 2010-11-23 16:23:49

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

I know how to make 3D games in Scratch. It just takes a lot of patience, math, and variables.

But it'll lag.



No matter what. Freaking lack of good loops in scratch.


Fix loops, you've made 3D possible.


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#7 2010-11-23 16:25:09

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

No.


Unless your making Pixar quality or something like that, I actually......hate 3-D.

(Well I mean it's okay is professionally design video games and stuff but if it's just a bunch of blocks put together to make a smiley face it's really not worth it.)

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#8 2010-11-23 19:18:46

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

It would be interesting, but currently, Scratch couldn't handle it. It's pretty simple to make 3D cubes and things, but beyond that it gets really complicated.

Making 3D models is a lot more difficult than flat sprites - you need tons of polygons, points of movement, textures, not to mention making it all on a 2D screen is really stressful - you get the point.

So no, I don't agree. However, there's plenty of software out there designed for making 3D games. Why not take a look at some of the links Wolfie1996 posted?


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#9 2010-11-23 20:31:21

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

juststickman wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

I know how to make 3D games in Scratch. It just takes a lot of patience, math, and variables.

But it'll lag.



No matter what. Freaking lack of good loops in scratch.


Fix loops, you've made 3D possible.

I'm making a Scratch mod, and (hopefully) I'll re-write the execution engine to make it faster. This won't exist until late 2011 though.


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#10 2010-11-23 20:43:18

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

markocrush wrote:

Listen up guys, this is especially for scratch pros. WE need a 3D engine!!!! Aren't u guys just tired of making 2d games!!!!! NOWs time for 3D games! but how???? So i wont u guys to get off ur [removed] and help me to convine MIT to make a 3D modelling engine for scratch. IS THAT OK!!!!

Thats a cool idea  smile


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#11 2010-11-23 21:18:56

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

Also take a look at this wiki article about scratch 3d projects I started.
It is a tough but fun challenge to make 3d in scratch.


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#12 2010-11-24 22:57:22

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

If you're complaining you are advanced enough to use a 3d Scratch engine, make a 3d game from the 2d engine. It's possible, Mr. I'madvancedsoIneedamoreadvancedscratchengine.

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#13 2010-11-25 09:48:53

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

I think the scratch team has already said no to this idea several times.


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#14 2010-11-25 17:21:36

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

I don't need one. In fact, if you want one, find a new programming language.


Thus I have spoken.

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#15 2010-11-25 19:37:53

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

yes, this is an idea that has been going around for a looong time. a bad idea at that.


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#16 2010-11-25 19:38:58

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

markocrush wrote:

Listen up guys, this is especially for scratch pros. WE need a 3D engine!!!! Aren't u guys just tired of making 2d games!!!!! NOWs time for 3D games! but how???? So i wont u guys to get off ur [removed] and help me to convine MIT to make a 3D modelling engine for scratch. IS THAT OK!!!!

NO IT"S NOT!!


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#17 2010-11-25 23:30:01

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

If you want 3D make your own engine and learn real programming >.>


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#18 2010-11-26 09:33:43

markocrush
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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

Ok guys, I want to thank you all for the advices. But I wanna mostly thank wolfie1996 for giving me the best advice, first I though the advice was rubbish until I checked out ALICE!!!!!!!!!!! Alice is such a simple programming language which includes 3D!!! So guys TRY ALICE!!! I have just started to program in Alice, if you are good at Scratch i'm sure you will learn Alice easily since Alice is another programming language where you can drag and drop scripts. So remember, if anyone wants to make a 3D game use Alice, if anyone wants to make a 2D game use Scracth!!!!

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#19 2010-11-26 14:42:58

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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

Scratch is for begginers like me
but 3d would be cool

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#20 2010-11-27 07:51:41

lasc12
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Re: A GIGANTIC PRoblem for scratch Pros, We need a 3D engine for scratch!!

Actually, advanced people use it with great reuslts.


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