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#1 2010-10-07 14:25:42

steppenwulf
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Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

The way the comment system works right now is that if you keep entering messages with the same, or too similar text in it, it won't submit. That works fine, except that I saw one user spamming comments by inserting random letters (ei. Eueueueeu- theerrere- fafdfafasdfsa -as fafdfadfadfad- afadfvveee) like every 2 seconds, and spammed about 400 comments that way.

To fix that, there should be another limit. A good idea would be if the user enters more than three or four comments within 60 seconds, he/she would have to wait another 20 seconds to enter more comments. What do you guys think? Any suggestions?

I've posted this suggestion here  big_smile

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#2 2010-10-07 14:36:21

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

hmm. it may be nice but the only thing is what if your project got on the front page or your a famous scratcher or something and you want to be nice and thank everyone who said something like "Nice Project!" the 60-second rule could get annoying there.


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#3 2010-10-07 14:38:35

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

lilacfuzz101 wrote:

hmm. it may be nice but the only thing is what if your project got on the front page or your a famous scratcher or something and you want to be nice and thank everyone who said something like "Nice Project!" the 60-second rule could get annoying there.

Yea. You think a six or seven comment limit and a 20 second wait would be more reasonable?


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#4 2010-10-07 14:43:12

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

so 6-7 comments/ 20 seconds? yes that would probably be more reasonable.  smile


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#5 2010-10-07 14:46:31

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

lilacfuzz101 wrote:

so 6-7 comments/ 20 seconds? yes that would probably be more reasonable.  smile

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#6 2010-10-07 15:25:10

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

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#7 2010-10-07 17:44:20

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

How about it could detect if there is a link in it?

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#8 2010-10-07 17:48:27

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

I like this idea - it reduces spam quite a bit, and it isn't annoying. I think even three comments within sixty seconds is reasonable.

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#9 2010-10-07 17:54:10

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

I definitely support this. This is a really good idea.


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#10 2010-10-07 19:00:00

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

steppenwulf wrote:

The way the comment system works right now is that if you keep entering messages with the same, or too similar text in it, it won't submit. That works fine, except that I saw one user spamming comments by inserting random letters (ei. Eueueueeu- theerrere- fafdfafasdfsa -as fafdfadfadfad- afadfvveee) like every 2 seconds, and spammed about 400 comments that way.

To fix that, there should be another limit. A good idea would be if the user enters more than six or seven comments within 60 seconds, he/she would have to wait another 20 seconds to enter more comments. What do you guys think? Any suggestions?

How it takes about ten minuets just to post a reply on the forums, I wouldn't give them an idea. Cause' in all honesty, and I'm not trying to be mean here, but who would waste thier vaulable time spamming a forum that almost 0% of the world know, or cares about.

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#11 2010-10-08 01:29:14

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

Awesome idea!!!  big_smile

coolstuff wrote:

I think even three comments within sixty seconds is reasonable.

Ooh, that seems like a reasonable amount.  smile


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#12 2010-10-08 01:30:55

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

SovietRussia wrote:

who would waste thier vaulable time spamming a forum that almost 0% of the world know, or cares about.

Scratch is very popular, and many people from all over the world use the Scratch website. And, each day the Scratch forums suffer from commercial spammers - I think someone said that they get one every hour.


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#13 2010-10-08 03:52:14

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

Maybe if it doesn't apply to your own projects?


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#14 2010-10-08 07:49:48

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

Jonathanpb wrote:

SovietRussia wrote:

who would waste thier vaulable time spamming a forum that almost 0% of the world know, or cares about.

Scratch is very popular, and many people from all over the world use the Scratch website. And, each day the Scratch forums suffer from commercial spammers - I think someone said that they get one every hour.

That's a bit of an overstatement, but we definitely do get more than one every day.

Scratch is actually a relatively popular website in comparison to some... It's worth spamming  wink

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#15 2010-10-08 11:47:36

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

Ezun11 wrote:

add rel="nofollow" to the tag
Spammer gains no benefit from adding links to your comments.

That's a good idea!

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#16 2010-10-08 14:58:05

steppenwulf
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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

Thanks for the support everyone  smile

What do you think about four comments a minute, and keep the 20 second wait? That way, "famous" people can reply to enough comments a minute without a super long wait, and spammers will be discouraged to spam.


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#17 2010-10-08 17:33:18

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

steppenwulf wrote:

Thanks for the support everyone  smile

What do you think about four comments a minute, and keep the 20 second wait? That way, "famous" people can reply to enough comments a minute without a super long wait, and spammers will be discouraged to spam.

I was going to side with coolstuff's number, but...  hmm

I can't decide - 20 seconds is rather short in my opinion.


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#18 2010-10-08 17:34:55

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

Great idea, but it should be less than 60 seconds.


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#19 2010-10-08 17:38:29

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

SovietRussia wrote:

steppenwulf wrote:

The way the comment system works right now is that if you keep entering messages with the same, or too similar text in it, it won't submit. That works fine, except that I saw one user spamming comments by inserting random letters (ei. Eueueueeu- theerrere- fafdfafasdfsa -as fafdfadfadfad- afadfvveee) like every 2 seconds, and spammed about 400 comments that way.

To fix that, there should be another limit. A good idea would be if the user enters more than six or seven comments within 60 seconds, he/she would have to wait another 20 seconds to enter more comments. What do you guys think? Any suggestions?

How it takes about ten minuets just to post a reply on the forums, I wouldn't give them an idea. Cause' in all honesty, and I'm not trying to be mean here, but who would waste thier vaulable time spamming a forum that almost 0% of the world know, or cares about.

Well, here we are talking about spam that is posted in the comments section of a project page.
Also, right now you have the 600 second rule because you are a "new scratcher" when you become a "scratcher" you will only have to wait 60 seconds. that prevents people from joining just to spam among other reasons.


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#20 2010-10-08 18:00:23

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

NOOOO! I'm not a spammer but I can view 25 ppm (Projects per minute). I comment on projects all the time. I don't like this.


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#21 2010-10-08 19:25:05

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

midnightleopard wrote:

I can view 25 ppm (Projects per minute)

o_o

*does calculations*

2 and a half seconds (approx) per project? Lol...


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#22 2010-10-08 19:30:33

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

There have been cases of commercial spammers spamming on the main site via comments and galleries instead of the forums, likewise it could prevent massive project link spam; I can see how a time limit could be useful here. Granted such a thing would make my commenting back process a bit slower, but I wouldn't mind it. Something like 30 seconds to 60 seconds would be reasonable.  smile

[EDIT: corrected my comment]

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#23 2010-10-08 19:33:16

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

45 seconds
I can already hear the gallery RPGer rage


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#24 2010-10-09 00:19:32

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

cheddargirl wrote:

There have been cases of commercial spammers spamming on the main site via comments and galleries instead of the forums, likewise it could prevent massive project link spam; I can see how a time limit could be useful here. Granted such a thing would make my commenting back process a bit slower, but I wouldn't mind it. Something like 30 minutes to 60 minutes would be reasonable.  smile

That's going way too far.
Lets make it like the forums.
New Scratchers have to wait ten minutes between comments (to stop spam) and we have to wait only one minute.

Wait! That's also going overboard.

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#25 2010-10-09 00:29:34

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Re: Comment time limit - Could be useful in preventing spam

ThePCKid wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

There have been cases of commercial spammers spamming on the main site via comments and galleries instead of the forums, likewise it could prevent massive project link spam; I can see how a time limit could be useful here. Granted such a thing would make my commenting back process a bit slower, but I wouldn't mind it. Something like 30 minutes to 60 minutes would be reasonable.  smile

That's going way too far.
Lets make it like the forums.
New Scratchers have to wait ten minutes between comments (to stop spam) and we have to wait only one minute.

Wait! That's also going overboard.

Eeep, I meant 30 to 60 seconds, not 30 to 60 minutes! Stupid error on my part. >.<


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