Scratch

I daresay I have suggested this directly to the Scratch Team, and after lengthy (as an understatement) discussion, me and the rest of the moderators have decided that it's rather impractical for a number of reasons I won't bore you with here.

However, I will give you the main issue: The TBGs are almost entirely community-run. This is simple with something like the TBGs where very few fights break out, and very rarely; however, on Miscellaneous, spam-like topics and flame wars break out almost consistently. Without the intervention of the Scratch Team as a largely patrolling force of the current moderating team, us moderators would be absolutely worthless. If Miscellaneous were moved to its own section, the new forum would be left with plenty of moderators who know nothing about what they're doing.

coolstuff wrote:

However, I will give you the main issue: The TBGs are almost entirely community-run. This is simple with something like the TBGs where very few fights break out, and very rarely; however, on Miscellaneous, spam-like topics and flame wars break out almost consistently.

You make the TBG sound angelic. 
Which it is, of course! 

Blade-Edge wrote:

So, why not make the existing mods who know what they're doing the mods on there as well? From what I've heard of it, moderating isn't that hard. You just help the same way a normal scratcher should, and respond to reports

There's a lot more than just that, you just don't see it because it all happens behind-the-scenes. Sometimes we moderators spend hours trying to clean up a flame war, or a spam "fad" - and Miscellaneous is the worst forum of them all for that kind of stuff. It's not something that should be taken lightly, especially with a near-absence of the Scratch Team.

Blade-Edge wrote:

So, then it's agreed.
No moving misc.

Wait for DaGamez to respond, I'm sure he's just waiting for the right time to release his excellent points that will blow everyone's minds and get the Miscellaneous immediately deleted! (Maybe....okay probably not)

DaGamez wrote:

But then we could put Miscellaneous in Archived Forums, because then there would be no fads, trends, etc., so less work for moderators, there wouldn´t be spam, there wouldn´t be an extra site, so it would be perfect. I mean, there´s no point for a miscellaneous forum in a programming site anyway. Do programmers care about someone getting teeth pulled out, I believe not.

So, you mean just close Miscellaneous anyways?

Well, you weren't around in 2008. Why was Inspiration and More put in? Because Show and Tell was essentially Miscellaneous. Closing Miscellaneous altogether would get all sorts of miscellany seeping into the other forums, which isn't something we'd like. People, especially at the target age of Scratch, like to chat, and there's no way to stop that.

coolstuff wrote:

The TBGs are almost entirely community-run. This is simple with something like the TBGs where very few fights break out, and very rarely; however, on Miscellaneous, spam-like topics and flame wars break out almost consistently.

Thus, we should remove miscellaneous and that would removing trolling right? Right? RIGHT?

If not, what are your reasons? If your reason is "it would spread to other forums", wouldn't cleaning up spam in those other forums still be a mod's duties, thus being OK, and because the spam is not related to the forum's description, the mods would have better reasons why it doesn't belong there on the scratch forums? And thus not having spam or "Cool Story Bro"s would promote a more healthy community, and promote the direction less on socializing and more on collaborating and discussing scratch and it's projects?? Yes? Yes?

Bad idea. Sorry, but then what's the point? No one would go on it. That's like getting rid of it. I mean, look at the poor TBGs....

To be honest Lucario, I didn't read your long posts. I am at a computer with a small screen and it's on a big desk so I am far away from it, and I can't read too well. My computer is having technical difficulties at the moment.

If you were however talking about deleting the Miscellaneous instead of moving it, then I agree.

i support!!!!!

i supporrt!!!!

I think Misc. and the TBG's should both be on scratch.mit.edu/tbgforums 

Or in other words: I support 

Last edited by Survivorduck (2010-08-23 14:05:19)

I've actually been talking to andres about this...