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#101 2010-08-23 11:43:27

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Support! Or maybe we could make it, so that when you post in misc, there will be no count added to your post count.  hmm


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#102 2010-08-23 11:49:29

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

fg123 wrote:

Support! Or maybe we could make it, so that when you post in misc, there will be no count added to your post count.  hmm

That's not the issue here, we just want the Miscellanous gone. Post counts barely have anything to do with it anymore, everyone besides me has stopped caring.


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#103 2010-08-23 12:23:04

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

And Littletonkslover, he was actually calling me the troll  tongue  I don't see why though >:])

Well, I think I like the new Ace-of-Spades  big_smile


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#104 2010-08-23 12:47:07

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

fg123 wrote:

Support! Or maybe we could make it, so that when you post in misc, there will be no count added to your post count.  hmm

That's not the issue here, we just want the Miscellanous gone. Post counts barely have anything to do with it anymore, everyone besides me has stopped caring.

But people post in Misc, because they want a high post count. And Misc, is the only place to post pointlessly, in their eyes.


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#105 2010-08-23 12:49:11

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

fg123 wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

fg123 wrote:

Support! Or maybe we could make it, so that when you post in misc, there will be no count added to your post count.  hmm

That's not the issue here, we just want the Miscellanous gone. Post counts barely have anything to do with it anymore, everyone besides me has stopped caring.

But people post in Misc, because they want a high post count. And Misc, is the only place to post pointlessly, in their eyes.

Not really. Because the post count thread by Jonathanpb is gone, it's not really the main reason any more.


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#106 2010-08-23 12:52:45

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Then why do we have so many pointless threads in Misc?


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#107 2010-08-23 12:54:10

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

fg123 wrote:

Then why do we have so many pointless threads in Misc?

They just want to chat and stuff. Post counts at this point in time is a much smaller goal atm. Here's something for ya:

babies : eat, poop, cry ; scratchers : chat, troll, annoy

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#108 2010-08-23 13:02:52

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

fg123 wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

fg123 wrote:

Support! Or maybe we could make it, so that when you post in misc, there will be no count added to your post count.  hmm

That's not the issue here, we just want the Miscellanous gone. Post counts barely have anything to do with it anymore, everyone besides me has stopped caring.

But people post in Misc, because they want a high post count. And Misc, is the only place to post pointlessly, in their eyes.

If we deleted post counts, the number of spam posts would probably be the same, and there would be added Petitions to being back post count threads too. Though that's not really what you said... I'm just too lazy to retype it though so I'll aim this post at Lucario who wanted to get rid of post counts before.


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#109 2010-08-23 13:11:23

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

So you agree on closing misc.


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#110 2010-08-23 13:12:43

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Yes.


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#111 2010-08-23 13:22:33

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

no! closing misc is a bad thing!!!!!!!!!

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#112 2010-08-23 13:25:42

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Lonewolf122 wrote:

no! closing misc is a bad thing!!!!!!!!!

You can't even post in there.


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#113 2010-08-23 13:38:03

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

Lonewolf122 wrote:

no! closing misc is a bad thing!!!!!!!!!

You can't even post in there.

Lol.


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#114 2010-08-24 03:39:09

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

But he can see in there. Besides, we all need a break now and then. If you're a computer freak, fine. But don't expect everyone to act like one. I'm an internet freak.


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#115 2010-08-24 05:09:41

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

helltank wrote:

But he can see in there. Besides, we all need a break now and then. If you're a computer freak, fine. But don't expect everyone to act like one. I'm an internet freak.

He can see in there? What is your point? He still can't post in there. If anything, he should be for the closing of Miscellaneous.


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#116 2010-08-24 06:50:08

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Alright, let's call for a truce, cause discussions are getting heated up and we don't want a flame war, do we? I wish the Scratch Team would respond soon... I'm anxious.


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#117 2010-08-24 10:59:03

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

helltank wrote:

Alright, let's call for a truce, cause discussions are getting heated up and we don't want a flame war, do we? I wish the Scratch Team would respond soon... I'm anxious.

It's not heating up unless you're trying to heat it up. And I will not call a truce, because you have not been giving any reasons as to why the miscellaneous should stay open, besides wanting to have a playground.


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#118 2010-08-24 14:20:11

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

How about it gets broken down into differnet catagories? Like "Events" and "Fan Clubs" just an idea...  hmm


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#119 2010-08-24 14:24:11

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

lilacfuzz101 wrote:

How about it gets broken down into differnet catagories? Like "Events" and "Fan Clubs" just an idea...  hmm

The spam would still build up in those forums then.


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#120 2010-08-24 14:32:05

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

I strongly agree. I'm sure the scratch team will agree that Miscellaneous is a lot of bother moderating and keeping track of, not to mention the countless flames, flamebaits, bragging topics and stuff that simply doesn't belong on a programming website.

The main argument is sitting right in front of us;

Miscellaneous
Use this forum if you are not certain if the topic is directly related to Scratch.

This is the purpose of the Miscellaneous forum. Look at every thread; the author obviously KNOWS that it isn't directly related to scratch, so why even post in that section? You will also notice that nearly every thread goes offtopic (and a lot of the time spirals into an argument). Misc isn't good for the community either, the community is getting rowdier with each post. Tell me, moderators, how many reports do you get a day? How many bans a month? A lot, I can guess. Scratch is in ruin and the root of the downfall is Miscellaneous.

And of course, the more you post thoughtlessly in misc, the more bad press the Scratchy Scratch comics get on you. A lot of the co-authors live on misc.

Enforce more rules mods, shovel out bans, but it will not help as much as closing the sub-section altogether.

Not only will this improve the condition of scratch, and give the scratch team a break, but it will also encourage the community to make their own forums and thrive; as well as bringing attention back to the main point of scratch.

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#121 2010-08-24 14:39:33

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

lilacfuzz101 wrote:

How about it gets broken down into differnet catagories? Like "Events" and "Fan Clubs" just an idea...  hmm

The spam would still build up in those forums then.

Well, with the topics more specific (and forget Events- too Twitery) there would be stricter guidlines for what would be put in each. Like no more "I'm going on Vacation!" and stuff.

And isn't spam trying to get projects more views? that's show-and-tell. right?  hmm


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#122 2010-08-24 14:48:14

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

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I strongly agree. I'm sure the scratch team will agree that Miscellaneous is a lot of bother moderating and keeping track of, not to mention the countless flames, flamebaits, bragging topics and stuff that simply doesn't belong on a programming website.

The main argument is sitting right in front of us;

Miscellaneous
Use this forum if you are not certain if the topic is directly related to Scratch.

This is the purpose of the Miscellaneous forum. Look at every thread; the author obviously KNOWS that it isn't directly related to scratch, so why even post in that section? You will also notice that nearly every thread goes offtopic (and a lot of the time spirals into an argument). Misc isn't good for the community either, the community is getting rowdier with each post. Tell me, moderators, how many reports do you get a day? How many bans a month? A lot, I can guess. Scratch is in ruin and the root of the downfall is Miscellaneous.

And of course, the more you post thoughtlessly in misc, the more bad press the Scratchy Scratch comics get on you. A lot of the co-authors live on misc.

Enforce more rules mods, shovel out bans, but it will not help as much as closing the sub-section altogether.

Not only will this improve the condition of scratch, and give the scratch team a break, but it will also encourage the community to make their own forums and thrive; as well as bringing attention back to the main point of scratch.

Making Projects!

Miscellaneous is a leading factor in the decline of Scratch's programming ability as a  whole, but actually most of the people who go on scratch don't even use the forum and a lot of them can't use Miscellaneous now. But I agree, if they just enforce the rules there wouldn't even be a need to delete the Miscellaneous (but if they don't it will just spiral out of control again). The best course of action is to delete the Miscellaneous.


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#123 2010-08-24 14:49:54

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

lilacfuzz101 wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

lilacfuzz101 wrote:

How about it gets broken down into differnet catagories? Like "Events" and "Fan Clubs" just an idea...  hmm

The spam would still build up in those forums then.

Well, with the topics more specific (and forget Events- too Twitery) there would be stricter guidlines for what would be put in each. Like no more "I'm going on Vacation!" and stuff.

And isn't spam trying to get projects more views? that's show-and-tell. right?  hmm

That's not the only kind of spam. And there are already Stricter Rules (as opposed to the false belief of some lax rules floating around). They are just not being enforced.


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#124 2010-08-24 18:15:22

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

-XD- wrote:

I strongly agree. I'm sure the scratch team will agree that Miscellaneous is a lot of bother moderating and keeping track of, not to mention the countless flames, flamebaits, bragging topics and stuff that simply doesn't belong on a programming website.

The main argument is sitting right in front of us;

Miscellaneous
Use this forum if you are not certain if the topic is directly related to Scratch.

This is the purpose of the Miscellaneous forum. Look at every thread; the author obviously KNOWS that it isn't directly related to scratch, so why even post in that section? You will also notice that nearly every thread goes offtopic (and a lot of the time spirals into an argument). Misc isn't good for the community either, the community is getting rowdier with each post. Tell me, moderators, how many reports do you get a day? How many bans a month? A lot, I can guess. Scratch is in ruin and the root of the downfall is Miscellaneous.

And of course, the more you post thoughtlessly in misc, the more bad press the Scratchy Scratch comics get on you. A lot of the co-authors live on misc.

Enforce more rules mods, shovel out bans, but it will not help as much as closing the sub-section altogether.

Not only will this improve the condition of scratch, and give the scratch team a break, but it will also encourage the community to make their own forums and thrive; as well as bringing attention back to the main point of scratch.

Making Projects!

Kind of weird because it's your first post.... but who cares! xD I definitely agree with you  smile


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#125 2010-08-24 19:32:38

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

-XD- wrote:

I strongly agree. I'm sure the scratch team will agree that Miscellaneous is a lot of bother moderating and keeping track of, not to mention the countless flames, flamebaits, bragging topics and stuff that simply doesn't belong on a programming website.

The main argument is sitting right in front of us;

Miscellaneous
Use this forum if you are not certain if the topic is directly related to Scratch.

This is the purpose of the Miscellaneous forum. Look at every thread; the author obviously KNOWS that it isn't directly related to scratch, so why even post in that section? You will also notice that nearly every thread goes offtopic (and a lot of the time spirals into an argument). Misc isn't good for the community either, the community is getting rowdier with each post. Tell me, moderators, how many reports do you get a day? How many bans a month? A lot, I can guess. Scratch is in ruin and the root of the downfall is Miscellaneous.

And of course, the more you post thoughtlessly in misc, the more bad press the Scratchy Scratch comics get on you. A lot of the co-authors live on misc.

Enforce more rules mods, shovel out bans, but it will not help as much as closing the sub-section altogether.

Not only will this improve the condition of scratch, and give the scratch team a break, but it will also encourage the community to make their own forums and thrive; as well as bringing attention back to the main point of scratch.

Making Projects!

I completely agree with the above.

Also, congrats on your first post, RHY  wink


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