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#1226 2010-07-29 09:49:10

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

PlayWithFire wrote:

bharvey wrote:

shadow_7283 wrote:

Vote to join BYOB3 and Scratch 2.0!

Hey, shadow, I want to thank you for your wonderful response to John's "what part of BYOB3 is most useful"!  (For those who aren't following this survey, he basically said "all of it.")  Your response was eloquent and heartwarming.

not to mention accurate! way to go shadow!

*embarrased* Thanks.  big_smile

EDIT: First post on 50th page!!!!

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#1227 2010-07-29 10:27:43

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

2.995.003 bugfix release:

Jens wrote:

- DEBUG reported 'Error!' for all custom reporter blocks
    - non-Western font sets (Korean) did not work in menus with
checkboxes (Edit-options)
    - REPORT in custom C-shaped slots did not always work
    - ASKing a list or a block  showed garbled text instead of the
first-class item
    - Trying to undelete a custom block used to raise an error box
    - double clicking on an "orphaned" variable setter used to raise an
error box

plus some more I forgot just now.

I dont know how many BYOB.images I have. All I know is that it's a lot.  smile


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#1228 2010-07-30 01:44:54

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

2.995.004 with bugfixes and with a current .changes so you can get into dev mode successfully again.

Also GardenSecret BYOBbed.ypr, the first of a planned series of Scratch sample projects rewritten to use BYOB's capabilities.


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#1229 2010-07-30 09:26:06

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Ooo. Are you accepting sample projects from users? If so, what sort of difficulty should they be?

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#1230 2010-07-31 05:23:44

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

shadow_7283 wrote:

Ooo. Are you accepting sample projects from users? If so, what sort of difficulty should they be?

That's a good idea!  We'd been thinking about doing it all ourselves.  smile   I think all levels of difficulty are okay, but it should be something that really shows off the expressive power of BYOB.  It would also be fine to take an old Scratch project of yours and use BYOB to rewrite it more elegantly.  (You probably shouldn't do that to someone else's project though.)


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#1231 2010-07-31 09:47:53

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

I think I'm going to make a project called Gobo trampoline physics...

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#1232 2010-07-31 10:01:41

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Excellent! Instead of "Gobo" let's call the lamda-haired mascot "Alonzo" from now on (Google Alonzo Church!), okay?


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#1233 2010-07-31 11:03:51

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Ok!

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#1234 2010-07-31 12:34:06

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

A few things I noticed while creating my project:

-Custom made C-shaped blocks do not automatically wrap around blocks when dragged over a script
-Multiple list watchers on top of each other cause there to be errors in the display
-You cannot select the variable you want in the set [variable] to () or change [variable] by () in the variable pallet
-Right click sensing on the script construction area still doesn't work (I found that alt-click is an alternate option)

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#1235 2010-07-31 13:47:48

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Alright. Here it is!
http://www.mediafire.com/?4j2e353mkb7ymzq
Oh. I forgot a project description!

Press space to make Alonzo jump in this exaggerated trampoline physics project! Don't jump too hard though...

Credits:
Background drawn in Paddle2See's "Fuzzy Paint" project.
Credit to scmb1's "The Ellipserator" project for the base of my half-ellipse drawing block.

How's that?
I tried to include as many BYOB features as possible, but it didn't turn out to be that many...

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#1236 2010-07-31 13:49:13

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Hmm - something about that sample project, something doesn't appear right to me. It might be my version - I have BYOB 2.995.000. One of the scripts looks like this:

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af54/lucario621/byobscripterror.png

Is this something that is a problem? Is it fixed in the newer versions? Or am I reporting this?


http://i.imgur.com/WBkM2QQ.png

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#1237 2010-07-31 13:51:53

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Mine is like that too. Although I only have 2.995.000...

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#1238 2010-07-31 13:52:53

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

shadow_7283 wrote:

Alright. Here it is!
http://www.mediafire.com/?4j2e353mkb7ymzq
Oh. I forgot a project description!

Press space to make Alonzo jump in this exaggerated trampoline physics project! Don't jump too hard though...

Credits:
Background drawn in Paddle2See's "Fuzzy Paint" project.
Credit to scmb1's "The Ellipserator" project for the base of my half-ellipse drawing block.

How's that?
I tried to include as many BYOB features as possible, but it didn't turn out to be that many...

Wow! Awesome project!   smile

It's fun to jump, then bounce and jump at the peak to get an even higher jump and stuff  tongue  And I can see the various BYOB blocks and such that you made.


http://i.imgur.com/WBkM2QQ.png

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#1239 2010-07-31 13:54:08

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Thanks! Did it break on you?  tongue

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#1240 2010-07-31 14:00:36

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

shadow_7283 wrote:

Mine is like that too. Although I only have 2.995.000...

Yeah - that's the one I have lol.


http://i.imgur.com/WBkM2QQ.png

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#1241 2010-07-31 14:01:42

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

shadow_7283 wrote:

Thanks! Did it break on you?  tongue

What do you mean? It did lag a bit while drawing the the black trampoline line, but that's it.


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#1242 2010-07-31 14:19:36

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Clearly you didn't jump high enough... (Fours good bounces in a row should do the trick)

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#1243 2010-07-31 14:35:03

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Updated version. This includes the project notes and more realistic layering.
http://www.mediafire.com/?p37a3ox775nn0g0

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#1244 2010-07-31 14:44:14

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Alonzo. Hehe.

I really want to make a sample project sometime this week, what's the deadline?


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#1245 2010-07-31 15:00:51

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Ugh. I wanted to fix an error in the trampoline graphics (move the bottom half two pixels to the left) but mediafire thinks it's a duplicate (which it really is) and won't let me upload it.

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#1246 2010-07-31 15:26:49

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

shadow_7283 wrote:

Clearly you didn't jump high enough... (Fours good bounces in a row should do the trick)

OOOHHHH that's what you meant. Yes that did happen  tongue


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#1247 2010-07-31 16:30:30

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

This is a new version with the fixed graphics and a new feature. Variable adjustment! And of course, it uses a very BYOBish way to do it.  smile
http://www.mediafire.com/?p37a3ox775nn0g0

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#1248 2010-07-31 17:56:29

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

shadow_7283 wrote:

This is a new version with the fixed graphics and a new feature. Variable adjustment!

That's funny!  Thanks.  I'll look at it really carefully when I'm really awake...


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#1249 2010-07-31 17:59:29

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

fullmoon wrote:

I really want to make a sample project sometime this week, what's the deadline?

Good question.  Umm, I think Thursday is about as late as it can reasonably be because we should put together The Release Version Saturday by the latest, and it takes a day or two of emails back and forth for us to make sure all files are the same on all platforms.  smile   Wednesday would be even better.

Thanks!


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#1250 2010-07-31 18:10:24

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Lucario621 wrote:

Hmm - something about that sample project, something doesn't appear right to me.

I can't reproduce this in 2.995.004.


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