Scratch

meew0 wrote:

juststickman wrote:

jackrulez wrote:

I say neither. That is, Scratch shouldn't be in Squeak nor Flash. Instead, I'm all for JavaScript. Let's list the advantages!
-- Easy to program in, unlike Flash
-- Free and open-source, unlike Flash
-- Works online, unlike Squeak
-- Pretty powerful
Go JavaScript! 

How is javascript any easier than actionscript?

Maybe because I know JavaScript not ActionScript? 

Other way round for me 

16Skittles wrote:

meew0 wrote:

juststickman wrote:

How is javascript any easier than actionscript?

Maybe because I know JavaScript not ActionScript? 

actionscript isa version of javascript.

No, they're just similar.

meew0 wrote:

juststickman wrote:

jackrulez wrote:

I say neither. That is, Scratch shouldn't be in Squeak or Flash. Instead, I'm all for JavaScript. Let's list the advantages!
-- Easy to program in, unlike Flash
-- Free and open-source, unlike Flash
-- Works online, unlike Squeak
-- Pretty powerful
Go JavaScript! 

How is javascript any easier than actionscript?

Maybe because I know JavaScript not ActionScript? 

Me too! Plus, JavaScript is FREE. FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

coolstuff wrote:

TimeFreeze wrote:

I agree with this, and I'm not sure if anyone realized this, but you wouldn't be able to right click. That would fail right away.

You can right click in Flash.

If you right click in flash, it says "About Flash Player X..." under "Settings..."
or something like that, doesn't it? I've never seen a flash project where you can input a right click function.

Also, I swear people need to learn the difference between Javascript and Actionscript.

Last edited by TimeFreeze (2010-06-23 18:02:36)

I think that you should have the option to use either flash or squeak, whatever users want.

I feel that scratch should just be the same. The scratch team could get scratch out faster, all they need to do is modify the old version.

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I also think Scratch is good as it is in Java, but it would be more convenient in flash. For example, if it was in Flash, you could be able to play it on gaming consoles such as the Nintendo Wii (Wii currently does not support Java, but does support Flash). Also, I do agree that it should be available in online and offline mode. Also, I have to state that it is a very tough decision of whether Java or Flash, Online or Offline, etc., etc.

"Put your fork in a fun position"
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Also in Flash.

And I don't think this argument is going to do any good, I think they're already working on it in Flash.

Last edited by The-Whiz (2010-07-01 15:12:32)

markyparky56 wrote:

I like flash, and you never know how its going to turn out until they've made it, and if you don't like it, then you can just go back to 1.4! The mods won't die out, the well grounded ones like Panther, BYOB, Slash, and all the other ones which are known about on the forums, they're going to be fine! So stop worrying and just wait until 2.0 comes out, you never know, the Scratch Team *cough*will*cough* surprise us with an amazing new version of Scratch.

Of course it going to be good, it's a new version of Scratch!

1stCorinthians wrote:

Honestly, my mom's internet is as slow as a snail cause she has DSL. She cant get verizon or comcast or xfinity cause she lives too far away. So, I oppose the idea of flash. (Well, OK, I have to agree with the idea for the online player, but offline should stay Squeak.)

There will be a downloadable version - Flash can run offline.

Besides, after the applet loads, the speed of your internet connection has little to do with the speed of the applet.

scratch_yoshi wrote:

Yeah, but doesn't Flash cost money? I don't like to pay for stuff over the internet; I'm not old enough.

The Flash player (which Scratch 2.0 will run in) is free, and probably already installed on your computer with your internet browser.

scratch_yoshi wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

1stCorinthians wrote:

Honestly, my mom's internet is as slow as a snail cause she has DSL. She cant get verizon or comcast or xfinity cause she lives too far away. So, I oppose the idea of flash. (Well, OK, I have to agree with the idea for the online player, but offline should stay Squeak.)

There will be a downloadable version - Flash can run offline.

Besides, after the applet loads, the speed of your internet connection has little to do with the speed of the applet.

Yeah, but doesn't Flash cost money? I don't like to pay for stuff over the internet; I'm not old enough.

Flash is quite expensive to develop in, yes, but to use the applications developed in it is absolutely free, and probably already installed on your computer.

It disturbs me that my quote about the benefits of Squeak is now at the top of the thread. Just to make it clear, I do not really support using a Squeak plugin for Scratch 2.0. It's a great idea in theory, but since almost no one has the plugin it would make Scratch inaccessible to people who are, for instance, using a library or a school computer.