Scratch

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

The-Whiz wrote:

OK Let's figure this out.

2 supporters on this thread    ≈25 non-supporters on this thread
-------------------------------------- = -----------------------------------------------
8 supporters total                 ≈100 non-supporters total

100 > 8.

100 > 8 = overall win = argument won = defence wins = end of argument.

Having most people agree with one side of an argument shouldn't end it.

Thats how most of the debates I've heard of or seen have ended. They take a vote and the side with the most votes wins, this wasn't techincaly like that, but taking a look at the odds (100 to 8), its not likely to get very far.

The-Whiz wrote:

I only see TWO people on this thread that want less restrictive rules! That's NOT a large group! Less restriction leads to parents not allowing smaller kids onto the site, which leads to even less restrictive rules, etc. It's a vicious circle, and it will go on until the Scratch Team just gets fed up and closes Scratch down or Scratch turns into a place where trolls are all over.

Three.

Less restriction... I don't see what could happen. We won't suddenly get a bunch of bloody projects, well the project could be intended to look like there was blood but it would just look like a solid red random squiggly mass.
I think you're exaggerating a bit, how bad could it be? Just because there are less rules doesn't mean that trolls will appear.

ohj um my kryboard is mrssrd so somr lrttrrs got mrssrd

juststickman wrote:

The-Whiz wrote:

I only see TWO people on this thread that want less restrictive rules! That's NOT a large group! Less restriction leads to parents not allowing smaller kids onto the site, which leads to even less restrictive rules, etc. It's a vicious circle, and it will go on until the Scratch Team just gets fed up and closes Scratch down or Scratch turns into a place where trolls are all over.

Three.

Less restriction... I don't see what could happen. We won't suddenly get a bunch of bloody projects, well the project could be intended to look like there was blood but it would just look like a solid red random squiggly mass.
I think you're exaggerating a bit, how bad could it be? Just because there are less rules doesn't mean that trolls will appear.

But they might, and would you rather have trolls or no trolls? overly violent games or ones that all ages can play? the censor is not going to work, all it is is leverage to allow people to get innapropriate content onto the website!

juststickman wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

juststickman wrote:

Three.

Less restriction... I don't see what could happen. We won't suddenly get a bunch of bloody projects, well the project could be intended to look like there was blood but it would just look like a solid red random squiggly mass.
I think you're exaggerating a bit, how bad could it be? Just because there are less rules doesn't mean that trolls will appear.

But they might, and would you rather have trolls or no trolls? overly violent games or ones that all ages can play? the censor is not going to work, all it is is leverage to allow people to get innapropriate content onto the website!

All people can play violent games... Do you understand that very few will appear as not many people on scratch have the programming ability to make something look violent?

Although technically most people can play violent games, it doesn't mean it's a good idea. It's a bad influence - don't you see? Especially for younger children - scratch.mit.edu shouldn't be the first website where a kid sees bloody violent games.

wiimaster wrote:

Spaghetticat wrote:

wiimaster wrote:

Ummm

Ok then...?

Limited rules wouldn't do much good either... there would still be innapropriate stuff?

And yes, I do think a bunch of jerks and complete demons are on Scratch because its true and we can't let them get what they want: The ability to post innapropriate stuff, no matter how limited.

I cant belive this.....would you people just listen to me for 5 seconds?
What do you mean when you say no matter how limited.I think of limited as being able to use words like stu.pid and dum.b and not get flagged for it and being able to gie criticism without being slammed not cursing like a sailor.

You can use stupid and dumb... just depends on the context! Its not censored, and most little kids use that anyway! Its just not nice to call people that in a very cruel way like an entire project attacking other users.

And whats all that about critism and slamming sailors?

what?i said cursing like sailors and when you criticize something you get slammed

Lucario621 wrote:

The-Whiz and Spaghetticat have both had their arguments and reasons - but I personally prefer to go back to what Spaghetticat said first:

Spaghetticat wrote:

I agree
Thechniclly i dont think this site was made for kids
It's just a little to advance((in my opininon))for that
There are also not many programming sites if any other then scratch
People should just have ot deal with it or just not veiw it

This website WAS made for kids - you have to understand that. Scratch is a programming language developed by the MIT Media Lab as a research project so younger kids don't have to just play games and view media, but also create their own games and media. You really have to understand the history of Scratch, and know the people to understand that.

Secondly, there ARE many programming sites other than scratch - you just haven't explored the internet far enough  . For example, there's newgrounds.

I respect your opinions right now as your still a newbie, but hopefully in your further Scratch experience you will understand this.

*twitch*Please dont inslut me im not a newbie

The-Whiz wrote:

Because you are criticising, not CONSTRUCTIVELY critisicing.

No I'll say something like:
"a few flaws-
-The anatomy isnt right the head is a little to big
-It isnt quite detailed enough"
And then people slam me!IVE HAD PEOPLE GO ON MY STUFF SAY ITS BAD AND THEN SAY "How does that make you feel?"

kiwi95 wrote:

Spaghetticat wrote:

The-Whiz wrote:

You still haven't given me any people in favor of less restrictive rules except you and sanddude.

Ok heres a list

fludd
trickster210
EIF
Kyote
chickmagnet112
bboy72
mudkip27
tomX5

want me to go on?

*Checks Community Stats

560,316 registered members.
I DONT KNOW EVERYONE ON THE SITE AND DO YOU?NO!

I count 8 people in that list.

Dream on. 

Let's make sure we're calm when posting - a little respect can go a long way when you're trying to prove a point 

Wolfie1996 wrote:

Let's make sure we're calm when posting - a little respect can go a long way when you're trying to prove a point 

Well said!

The-Whiz wrote:

juststickman wrote:

The-Whiz wrote:

Do they need to? YOu don't need programming ability to post a list of swear words.

Who would just post a list of swear words...

People who do stuff like that for fun... Trust me, there's people like that. 

Sadly, yes. that is one messed-up definition of "FUN."