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#26 2010-03-25 12:30:56

markyparky56
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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

Bopitman99 wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

Leer10 wrote:


It would be even better if scripts could create Sprites with scripts in them so there could  be as many other players as you want instead of having only to limit to the amount of dummy sprites!

Theres a way of adding cloning blocks... Here

Awesome! Thanks  big_smile

I dont see how you'd apply it, since mesh is only 1 to 1...


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#27 2010-03-25 15:17:02

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

markyparky56 wrote:

Leer10 wrote:

juststickman wrote:

With this, you could finally make a decent MMO!

It would be even better if scripts could create Sprites with scripts in them so there could  be as many other players as you want instead of having only to limit to the amount of dummy sprites!

Theres a way of adding cloning blocks... Here

I have found that these don't work in presentation mode.


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#28 2010-03-25 17:10:29

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

nXIII wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

Leer10 wrote:

It would be even better if scripts could create Sprites with scripts in them so there could  be as many other players as you want instead of having only to limit to the amount of dummy sprites!

Theres a way of adding cloning blocks... Here

I have found that these don't work in presentation mode.

Is there a way around that?


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#29 2010-03-25 17:53:55

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

Interesting ideas - and really nicely done mockups by the way!
So - most of our effort is going towards developing Scratch 2.0 now, so it's unlikely we'll be making any major changes to the Scratch 1.4 code. With Scratch 2.0, the plan is to have all Scratch projects be viewed and edited on the Scratch website... this has pretty major implications for mesh, because if the Scratch projects are all running from the same server, they don't need to worry about knowing eachother's IP address: They're already on the same computer!
So we're not sure if we'll implement ways for Scratch projects to connect to eachother - but if we do, we'll need to think about these issues carefully -
How do Scratch projects:
1. connect with eachother?
2. communicate to one another - i.e. what information do they exchange, and how do they exchange it?


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#30 2010-03-25 20:20:19

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

you can already activate mesh in version 1.5 ,but this would be easyer and better!!!


read that thing up there^

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#31 2010-03-25 20:20:54

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

Lightnin wrote:

How do Scratch projects:
1. connect with eachother?
2. communicate to one another - i.e. what information do they exchange, and how do they exchange it?

Just my thoughts:
1. Maybe they could connect by username, i.e. a 'request connection with user ( ) and message ( )' and a small notification would pop up on that user's Scratch window/other thing that said 'Would you like to connect with some user? Message from user:' and then a message that was contained in the argument, which would be something like 'Do you want to play some game with me? This is the project: (link to project)'
2. There could be a 'send data ( ) named ( )' block and the data could be accessed with a reporter something like 'data named ( )'. This way a project could send something like 'username-Message' or 'username-Score' so that projects could distinguish between data sent by each project/user.

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#32 2010-03-26 18:57:03

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

Bopitman99 wrote:

iCode-747 wrote:

I wonder if you could make something like this in BYOB or Squeak.

Nice idea, it must be possible...

It IS possible! Anything a computer can do is possible in squeak. Or a plugin. I will work on it right away!


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#33 2010-03-27 03:39:04

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

yaahoo wrote:

Bopitman99 wrote:

iCode-747 wrote:

I wonder if you could make something like this in BYOB or Squeak.

Nice idea, it must be possible...

It IS possible! Anything a computer can do is possible in squeak. Or a plugin. I will work on it right away!

Awesome, thanks  big_smile


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#34 2010-03-27 06:30:37

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

Lightnin wrote:

Interesting ideas - and really nicely done mockups by the way!
So - most of our effort is going towards developing Scratch 2.0 now, so it's unlikely we'll be making any major changes to the Scratch 1.4 code. With Scratch 2.0, the plan is to have all Scratch projects be viewed and edited on the Scratch website... this has pretty major implications for mesh, because if the Scratch projects are all running from the same server, they don't need to worry about knowing eachother's IP address: They're already on the same computer!
So we're not sure if we'll implement ways for Scratch projects to connect to eachother - but if we do, we'll need to think about these issues carefully -
How do Scratch projects:
1. connect with eachother?
2. communicate to one another - i.e. what information do they exchange, and how do they exchange it?

So... will scrtach be downloadable, because i dont really want to have to wait for my dad to turn on the house server so i can go use scratch, plus, not everybody has a large amount of bandwidth at their disposal.

jaapjaap2 wrote:

you can already activate mesh in version 1.5 ,but this would be easyer and better!!!

There is no 1.5...


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#35 2010-04-08 17:50:29

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

Me, sparks, and nXIII's mod, Panther (pantherprogramming.weebly.com) includes Mesh blocks. Sadly, this mod is still in Beta stages.


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#36 2010-04-09 01:57:10

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

Ooh... I hope it works in 2.0.  smile


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#37 2010-04-09 05:03:24

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

Mwahahahahaha! I vill TORTURE YOU!
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6937/meshblocks.gif
These are real... but only basic and not official panther blocks. (Thanks MathWhizz)


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#38 2010-04-09 07:55:23

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

markyparky56 wrote:

Mwahahahahaha! I vill TORTURE YOU!
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6937/meshblocks.gif
These are real... but only basic and not official panther blocks. (Thanks MathWhizz)

They SHOULD be official. MathWizz IS part of the team.


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#39 2010-05-21 17:54:22

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

Make the blocks with BYOB. Easy. Then save the file, load it into regular Scratch, then share! Easy peasy.  big_smile


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#40 2010-05-27 21:57:45

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

One problem with doing this on the scratch website: It requires an IP-adress. The website doesn't have an IP. Maybe that problem can be fixed...

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#41 2010-05-28 11:30:43

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

download panther ,there are the scripts!
http://pantherprogramming.weebly.com/


http://blocks.scratchr.org/API.php?action=projects&type=newest&return=image&user=taddl
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#42 2010-06-25 10:20:10

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

most likely join scratch session at ip %s would be a good idea because they dont refer to the method really as join mesh in the source code they refer to it as scratch sessions


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#43 2010-06-25 10:21:10

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

i downloaded panther i realized it is 8mb hey what do you know it would fit the scratch project size limit


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#44 2010-06-25 10:22:48

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

cool this panther is awsome


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#45 2010-06-25 10:25:56

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

whoa color blocks and file blocks i love this cool costume blocks i have to say this is the best mod yet i dont think of it as a mod this should be an official scratch version


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#46 2010-06-25 10:30:00

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

electrified123 wrote:

whoa color blocks and file blocks i love this cool costume blocks i have to say this is the best mod yet i dont think of it as a mod this should be an official scratch version

Sounds like you're talking about Panther...

Wait... yeah, you are, sorry.  sad

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#47 2011-05-07 07:30:41

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

Bopitman99 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Just make BYOB available online!

That would also be awesome, and a great improvement for the BYOB site too  smile

(I'm not that good with BYOB though  sad  )

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#48 2011-07-04 13:02:53

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

Bopitman99 wrote:

Seeing as mesh is an awesome way of playing online multiplayer scratch games, I thought up some blocks that would be useful for Scratch 2.0:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/78/meshblocks.png

These blocks would make mesh games so mush easier to make for young scratchers or scratchers who can't be bothered to edit the source code  tongue 

These blocks would also enable mesh to work ONLINE!

Discuss...

well, in panther there in the '[url=http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Panther#Files[/url]' there is those blocks.

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#49 2011-07-04 14:40:19

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

Support this


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#50 2011-08-10 17:19:38

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Re: Mesh Block Ideas For Scratch 2.0

shamrocker wrote:

Make the blocks with BYOB. Easy. Then save the file, load it into regular Scratch, then share! Easy peasy.  big_smile

1) these can't be made in BYOB If you think you can make them, show me how
2) you can't import BYOB blocks into scratch


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