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#1 2010-04-14 18:00:47

adriangl
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Apple hurt me right in the heart

Apple has just removed the Scratch player for the iPhone/iTouch! Why you ask? Because they hate us. When I asked andresmh(via Twitter), he replied "Scratch kinda lets anyone create an iPhone app and it seems like they want to decide who can and who cannot do that". Basically, Apple hates us.

Boo  sad


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#2 2010-04-14 18:03:23

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

They removed it?

*thud*

Yes, I fell off my chair.


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#3 2010-04-14 18:11:02

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

waveOSBeta wrote:

They removed it?

*thud*

Yes, I fell off my chair.

Yup.

All because Steve Jobs wasn't smart enough to get into MIT  tongue


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#4 2010-04-14 18:12:31

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

tongue

Good one.

Maybe We can release a third-party app not available at the app store.


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#5 2010-04-14 18:22:25

adriangl
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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

waveOSBeta wrote:

tongue

Good one.

Maybe We can release a third-party app not available at the app store.

I'm sure an Android app is possible. And there is always soft board for Samsung phones, but that is more for games, not apps.


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#6 2010-04-14 18:26:58

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

That app couldn't run much anyways, I could've bought 4 songs with that.

Steve Jobs should stop being such a jerk anyways.

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#7 2010-04-14 18:35:32

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

ahh...


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#8 2010-04-14 18:37:08

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

That's stupid.

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#9 2010-04-14 18:39:25

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

I will KILL apple now! D:<

Thanks for letting me know.

Me itouch kind of broke.

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#10 2010-04-14 19:03:02

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

Really? I still have the app downloaded. Still I hate it anyways. It's a waste of money.
plus apple *? You allow games that are HORRIBLE but you dont allow scratch? [Innapropriate remark against apple, even though they deserved it removed by lonwol]


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#11 2010-04-14 19:23:58

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

I saw this coming. Apple has banned all third party software from creating ipod apps. What they did to scratch was nothing compared to what they did to Adobe. Flash CS5's biggest feature was the ability to make flash programs for the iphone and because Apple has banned this the usefulness of flash CS5 has gone down a lot.

Its a business decision. Apple wants to be in complete control of what can make apps for their machines so they ban all app creators except their own. Of course, they can take all the hate from developers because the mindless Apple legions will still love them.

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#12 2010-04-14 19:27:01

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

thats stupid, first the ipad and now this?  apple is going down hill.
the ipad took the whole purpose of an ipod (making it pocket sized) and got rid of it
and this is a complete waste of time and effort.


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#13 2010-04-14 19:33:57

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

WHAT???

Apple WILL die! *gets mallet and smashes iPad to bits*

(No, I did not destroy my iPad for real, nor will I.)


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#14 2010-04-14 19:36:09

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

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This.  lol


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#15 2010-04-14 19:51:14

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

If you bought an iPad you are telling Apple that what they did was acceptable and because they have you money and will continue to take your money they will not change the way they do things. So if you really want to tell Apple what they did was bad refuse to buy their products until they change things.


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#16 2010-04-14 21:05:19

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

archmage wrote:

I saw this coming. Apple has banned all third party software from creating ipod apps. What they did to scratch was nothing compared to what they did to Adobe. Flash CS5's biggest feature was the ability to make flash programs for the iphone and because Apple has banned this the usefulness of flash CS5 has gone down a lot.

Its a business decision. Apple wants to be in complete control of what can make apps for their machines so they ban all app creators except their own. Of course, they can take all the hate from developers because the mindless Apple legions will still love them.

Heh. Apple is losing my respect, even though they already did. So your saying that they RELEASED, an app maker, and LET people create there own apps, but now they wont even let them distibute it? Talk about power hungry.


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#17 2010-04-14 21:11:25

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

I'd only buy iTunes songs, cards, and iPhone/Touch. Nothing else. I actually....Kinda HATE Macs! Sometimes(but rarely)the iPods are faulty, even the touches some time. And those are the latest ones...The shuffle is cheap and compact, but I don't find a point for them always on shuffle. I dun really like Apple. I understand why, I just don't think that's good enough reason.


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#18 2010-04-14 21:41:31

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

Apple has made many bad choices in the past and are going to make many more in the future.

Just because Steve Jobs isn't smart because he couldn't get into MIT  tongue

Double Win


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#19 2010-04-14 21:49:27

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

adriangl wrote:

Apple has made many bad choices in the past and are going to make many more in the future.

Just because Steve Jobs isn't smart because he couldn't get into MIT  tongue

Double Win

And probably worse ones as well. *nod, nod*


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#20 2010-04-14 22:42:56

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

lonwol wrote:

archmage wrote:

I saw this coming. Apple has banned all third party software from creating ipod apps. What they did to scratch was nothing compared to what they did to Adobe. Flash CS5's biggest feature was the ability to make flash programs for the iphone and because Apple has banned this the usefulness of flash CS5 has gone down a lot.

Its a business decision. Apple wants to be in complete control of what can make apps for their machines so they ban all app creators except their own. Of course, they can take all the hate from developers because the mindless Apple legions will still love them.

Heh. Apple is losing my respect, even though they already did. So your saying that they RELEASED, an app maker, and LET people create there own apps, but now they wont even let them distibute it? Talk about power hungry.

No, this is a recent development from Apple that occurred in the last week or so. Probably as a response to flash CS5. At the time the scratch app was made 3rd party creation tools were welcome.

And Apple is more power hungry then you think. They ban all apps that are similar to theirs so that their apps have no competition.

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#21 2010-04-14 22:45:51

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

Penguinsrock wrote:

adriangl wrote:

Apple has made many bad choices in the past and are going to make many more in the future.

Just because Steve Jobs isn't smart because he couldn't get into MIT  tongue

Double Win

And probably worse ones as well. *nod, nod*

Actually this was a good business decision as they are creating a monopoly on the software creation tools (which only run on Macs). However, what is good for Apple as a business is bad for software developers which I guess would include scratch users.

If you really want to tell Apple that you don't like this stop buying iTunes cards and send them an email telling them they have lost a customer because of their policies.

This whole deal is much bigger than just scratch.


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#22 2010-04-14 23:06:05

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

archmage wrote:

Penguinsrock wrote:

adriangl wrote:

Apple has made many bad choices in the past and are going to make many more in the future.

Just because Steve Jobs isn't smart because he couldn't get into MIT  tongue

Double Win

And probably worse ones as well. *nod, nod*

Actually this was a good business decision as they are creating a monopoly on the software creation tools (which only run on Macs). However, what is good for Apple as a business is bad for software developers which I guess would include scratch users.

If you really want to tell Apple that you don't like this stop buying iTunes cards and send them an email telling them they have lost a customer because of their policies.

This whole deal is much bigger than just scratch.

Yup. A lot of people hate Apple  big_smile

But seriously, not 3rd party apps? Has Apple gone insane(well, more than already)?


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#23 2010-04-14 23:40:44

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

archmage wrote:

Penguinsrock wrote:

adriangl wrote:

Apple has made many bad choices in the past and are going to make many more in the future.

Just because Steve Jobs isn't smart because he couldn't get into MIT  tongue

Double Win

And probably worse ones as well. *nod, nod*

Actually this was a good business decision as they are creating a monopoly on the software creation tools (which only run on Macs). However, what is good for Apple as a business is bad for software developers which I guess would include scratch users.

If you really want to tell Apple that you don't like this stop buying iTunes cards and send them an email telling them they have lost a customer because of their policies.

This whole deal is much bigger than just scratch.

many people get music... off the internet instead if you know what i'm saying.  lol  so they've already lost money


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#24 2010-04-15 00:24:34

archmage
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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

There will always be people that don't pay for intellectual property but Apple is doing pretty well in the music department being the biggest music retailer in the US. They passed Wal-Mart as the biggest music retailer about 2 years ago.


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#25 2010-04-15 00:57:03

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Re: Apple hurt me right in the heart

you could also put this as:
apple supports people who already know what they're doing, but they don't support people who don't what they're doing, but potentially have the ideas to make something incredible


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