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#1 2009-11-12 03:39:51

Jonathanpb
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Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

The forum blocks have not been updated since Scratch 1.1yikes

The things that need to be done:
1: Numbers must be changed to Operators.
2: Motor Blocks need to be added.
3: We are missing 34 ( yikes ) blocks and have 5 ( yikes ) old blocks that no longer exist. This needs to be fixed. The list of blocks that need to be added and removed come later.
4 (optional but nice):

06dknibbs wrote:

I would like it if the images we're made a little smoother and updated  smile

I don't really like using the forum blocks at the moment as it can be messy and hard to read when mixing certain blocks  smile

The blocks are fuzzy, big, and people don't like to use them because it's all messy (some people build scripts in Scratch, import a picture of the script to some photo-hosting website, and use that instead of the forum blocks). Is it possible to change it? And it would be nice if the blocks fit together nicer (again, if that's possible).


The missing blocks:

Motion: None
Looks: (costume/background #)
Sound: [play sound [ ] until done], [play drum ( ) for ( ) beats], [play note ( ) for ( ) beats], [rest for ( ) beats], [change volume by ( )], [set volume to ( )], (volume), [change tempo by ( )], [set tempo to ( )], (tempo)
Pen: None
Control: None
Sensing: [ask [ ] and wait], (answer), ([ ] of [ ]), ([ ] sensor value), <[ ] sensor [button pressed]>
Operators: (join [ ][ ]), (letter ( ) of [ ]), (length of [ ]), ([ ] of [ ])
Variables: [show variable [ ]], [hide variable [ ]], [add [ ] to [List]], [delete [ ] of [List]], [insert [ ] at [ ] of [List]], [replace item ( ) of [List] with [ ]], (item ( ) of [List]), (length of [List]), <[List] contains [ ]>
Motor Blocks: [motor on for ( ) secs], [motor on], [motor off], [motor power ( )], [motor direction [ ]]

The old blocks that need to be removed are:
Motion: None
Looks: None
Sound: [play sound [ ] and wait], [play drum ( ) for ( ) secs], [play note ( ) for ( ) secs] (those last two have been replaced by beats instead of seconds)
Pen: None
Sensing: <color [ ] is over [ ]?>
Operators: (abs [ ]) (it has been replaced by "([ ] of [ ] )")
Variables: None
Motor Blocks: None (since the forums haven't been updated yet  tongue )

Look at it! It hasn't been updated for a long time, and we're missing tons of blocks and we have five old blocks that need to be removed! It's not good...  sad

Last edited by Jonathanpb (2010-06-24 01:22:59)


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#2 2009-11-12 05:54:58

ElPapa
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

Wow... I never noticed that. XD Yes, some changes are due.


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#3 2009-11-12 18:44:07

prairie
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

I was also thinking about this. The current blocks were from 1.1 by the way. Updates are long overdue in my opinion.


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#4 2009-11-12 18:49:01

06dknibbs
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

I agree, but I would also like it if the images we're made a little smoother and updated  smile

I don't really like using the forum blocks at the moment as it can be messy and hard to read when mixing certain blocks  smile

Last edited by 06dknibbs (2009-11-12 18:51:09)


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#5 2009-11-12 18:50:46

prairie
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

I think a built in EDITOR would be great!


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#6 2009-11-13 00:10:17

Jonathanpb
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

Added stuff from 06dknibbs.


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#7 2009-11-13 05:37:05

Paddle2See
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

Yeah...this has been on the fix-it list for a long time.  It was in the process of being updated and then 1.4 came along with new blocks and it got sent back for more work.


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#8 2009-11-13 09:51:45

Magnie
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

( Paddle2See's post proves that admins look at the suggestions forum )

Yea, these REALLY need to be updated... someone mind making a online program to make these for us, then the Scratch Team can just implement this and everything is fixed.  big_smile

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#9 2009-11-13 18:53:36

fg123
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

I second that. And like 06dknibbs said, the blocks don't line up too well and some are bigger or too fuzzy. I wish you could right click a block or a script and there will be a option of Upload To Image Shack. That will save a picture and upload it to Image Shack automatically and it will also spit out the link to the image.


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#10 2009-11-13 19:14:11

scratch_yoshi
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

Another two that have to be removed:

[blocks]<play drum(  )for(  )secs><play note(  )for(  )secs>[/blocks]

Last edited by scratch_yoshi (2009-11-13 19:15:10)


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#11 2009-11-13 19:21:55

ThePCKid
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

Variables:

Show variable [_____]
Hide variable [_____]

(didn't say about the 7/8 list blocks)

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#12 2009-11-14 01:20:55

Jonathanpb
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

scratch_yoshi wrote:

Another two that have to be removed:

[blocks]<play drum(  )for(  )secs><play note(  )for(  )secs>[/blocks]

I missed those blocks! Those are seconds instead of beats!


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#13 2009-11-14 01:27:21

Jonathanpb
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

Paddle2See wrote:

Yeah...this has been on the fix-it list for a long time.  It was in the process of being updated and then 1.4 came along with new blocks and it got sent back for more work.

Thanks Paddle! One of the things I love is hearing from the Scratch Team (we can get updates on what's going on). Thanks for informing us!

How long do you think it'll take? If you don't know, that's all right.  smile


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#14 2009-11-14 01:28:21

Jonathanpb
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

ThePCKid wrote:

Variables:

Show variable [_____]
Hide variable [_____]

(didn't say about the 7/8 list blocks)

Those two blocks are already in my topic post.

What do you mean by the 7/8 blocks?


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#15 2009-11-14 04:18:32

Jonathanpb
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

Could you guys please change the Numbers to Operators? That should barely take any time (maybe a few minutes at most?), if I'm not mistaken.  hmm

Last edited by Jonathanpb (2009-11-14 04:18:43)


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#16 2009-11-14 17:33:33

hmnwilson
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

I remember this was first suggested some time in early 2008, and nothing happened.  hmm

Yeah... they are way too outdated to be that useful.


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#17 2009-11-14 20:40:33

guenterjan
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

1) A command that resets/initializes all variables would be useful.
2) I miss support for assertions

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#18 2009-11-14 22:30:57

Chrischb
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

guenterjan wrote:

1) A command that resets/initializes all variables would be useful.
2) I miss support for assertions

This isn't a thread for suggestions, guenterjan. It's about updating the forum blocks.

Anyway, why hasn't the Scratch Team done anything yet?
Probably just lazy.


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#19 2009-11-15 04:21:50

Jonathanpb
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

Not lazy... probably just not wanting to bother.

What I'm really annoyed about is changing the Numbers to Operators. That should only take a minute! Why not bother?


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#20 2010-02-11 00:14:32

Jonathanpb
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

Well, the same suggestion was made but closed because this topic already existed - so that topic wasn't a waste, I'll be bumping this to continue the discussion.  smile


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#21 2010-02-28 16:54:58

ThePCKid
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

Bump

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#22 2010-02-28 17:02:59

fanofcena
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

I Support . Actually there should be a good idea to upload a script from a system or making a drag and drop script here


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#23 2010-02-28 18:23:58

Chrischb
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

I usually type the blocks as text, though...


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#24 2010-02-28 22:18:03

Dazachi
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

Please do update them. And improving the graphics of them would be nice.


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#25 2010-02-28 23:52:20

Chrischb
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Re: Updating the blocks in the forums: 34 new blocks and delete 5 old ones

For quality, making them in Scratch and uploading a picture of them works best.  smile

Which is why I like illusionist's suggestion the most... it's a script editor in the forums.  yikes


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