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fg123 wrote:

But how would you upload a project without an account?? How about when an account is created, and is not active for a week, it will be delete. Inactive means no projects, 1-2 posts, etc.

I don't really agree. What if you went on vacation? And what if you were an amazing scratcher with lots of projects new members could learn from and your accout got deleted after you quit? That seems like a lot of work going to waste.

fg123 wrote:

greenflash wrote:

fg123 wrote:

But how would you upload a project without an account?? How about when an account is created, and is not active for a week, it will be delete. Inactive means no projects, 1-2 posts, etc.

I don't really agree. What if you went on vacation? And what if you were an amazing scratcher with lots of projects new members could learn from and your accout got deleted after you quit? That seems like a lot of work going to waste.

I mean like if you have no projects at all for 1 week, your acc will  be deleted.

Does this mean that you support my account being deleted for inactivity? I don't post a project every week. 
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It's interesting to note the huge difference between contributing user, and non-contributing users. I do remember in programming class that the professor encouraged everyone to get an account on the Scratch website in order to be able to download projects in order to view the coding and see how they work; few of us (like me) actually stayed behind and uploaded projects and got involved in the Scratch community - I wonder if this is the case with a majority of the non-contributing users; perhaps many of them have an account just for viewing and downloading purposes?

fg123 wrote:

Let's rephrase that one more time. 
If a user has no projects, and in one week after he/she registers, and he/she still has no projects, a warning will be sent. If that warning is ignored for another week, the acc will be deleted.

Getit?

Ah, now I see. But I still feel that's a bad idea. I didn't upload anything for about one month after registering with the Scratch website. Under those above conditions you presented, my account would be still marked for deletion. 

fg123 wrote:

Well, they would send you a warning and if you can give a valid reason, they won't delete your account. Maybe the Scratch Team could share the secret: That you can download a project without logging in by adding '/download' to the url.

Perhaps... but being that the login requirements are in place, it seems most likely that the Scratch Team has a reason for not sharing the URL loophole. And it seems like such a hassle to try and go after all the 300,000+ users who have not uploaded anything for the duration they have been on the Scratch website. 

Additionally, you never know when someone using an account for viewing and downloading may end up desiring to post a Scratch project later on in the future (hey, that's what happened to me after sticking around on the Scratch website for a while.    )
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Hmm... this topic is making me ponder over why there is such a large number of contributors over non contributors. Certainly new members without anything to share yet make up a portion of this non-contributing group, so do those who join for the sake of only downloading and/or only commenting. (And those commercial spammers but they make up such a very small and insignificant portion so I don't really count them). I wonder what other reasons are there: perhaps maybe those who need an account to post comments on the forums for help? Or maybe those who join for the sake of TBGs (although I'd hate to think of something like that  )? Or maybe there were users who were first interested in Scratch, have not uploaded anything, and just ended up leaving without contributing anything because of loss of interest? 

Maybe some of them are just busy working on a good project? 

Or maybe they need to post in the forums when they didn't plan to make an account.
Or maybe they moved on to something else before they could upload a project.

maybe...

I don't know. You have a point, though! I've noticed it before, but just thought it was a big reason that I was clueless about.

Lucario621 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

fg123 wrote:

I mean like if you have no projects at all for 1 week, your acc will  be deleted.

Does this mean that you support my account being deleted for inactivity? I don't post a project every week. 

Maybe I do... [/not joking]

We all love CheddarGirl... Who wouldn't! Don't be like that! Let's all be nice to one another.

ScratchX wrote:

Why would we want to delete TONS of users? The way i see it is MORE users means the Scratch community is more popular and if users see that the community is popular then they will join adding even more users. Also ehem...more users means the worth of the site is expanding. Also the users DON'T lag up the system because they are inactive and projects lag up the system.
I hope want i said makes sense. (No seroiusly....it kinda doesnt make sense to me  )

With all these people quiting recently I agree with ScratchX. Scratch will turn deserted (Sort of...) if this becomes something real.

ScratchX wrote:

DawnLight wrote:

ScratchX wrote:

Why would we want to delete TONS of users? The way i see it is MORE users means the Scratch community is more popular and if users see that the community is popular then they will join adding even more users. Also ehem...more users means the worth of the site is expanding. Also the users DON'T lag up the system because they are inactive and projects lag up the system.
I hope want i said makes sense. (No seroiusly....it kinda doesnt make sense to me  )

With all these people quiting recently I agree with ScratchX. Scratch will turn deserted (Sort of...) if this becomes something real.

Or the WORST thing could happen....*gasp* MIT could sell the website....it is worth over 1 MILLION! dollars now....but that would NEVER happen..or could  it? Dun dun dun! 

Well, let's not conclude yet. We never know what might happen in the near or far future. That is YET... 

Last edited by DawnLight (2009-11-28 11:33:19)

Yeah... I don't think deleting users is a good idea.

ScratchX wrote:

hamsandwitch678 wrote:

Yeah... I don't think deleting users is a good idea.

So you changed your mind?
    *  At least 60 seconds have to pass between posts. Please wait a little while and try posting again.
arggg!!

Regular scratchers have to deal with 60 Second rule. It helps stops spammers. I think it is a good, but annoying idea. 

Back to topic...

hamsandwitch678 wrote:

It wasn't me who sugested it:  It was fg123. 

fg123 wrote:

But how would you upload a project without an account?? How about when an account is created, and is not active for a week, it will be delete. Inactive means no projects, 1-2 posts, etc.

Anyway, I think:  How about you cannot create an account until you have uploaded a project?  It would slow the guys who make new users constantly down a lot.

That idea wouldn't make sense either. If it was active then random non-members would be posting random project causing lots of spam in the end.