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#26 2009-11-11 12:10:48

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

I don't get it  sad

Actually I do, but how are you going to categorize them? Is there some option in this forum style?

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#27 2009-11-11 12:40:24

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

Mr_X wrote:

I don't get it  sad

Actually I do, but how are you going to categorize them? Is there some option in this forum style?

Scratch is using a forum software called FluxBB.
FluxBB is open-source and therefor easy to customize if you have good PHP skills  smile


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#28 2009-11-11 12:44:24

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

I thought it was PunBB


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#29 2009-11-11 12:49:18

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

Mr_X wrote:

I thought it was PunBB

Nope... http://info.scratch.mit.edu/ScratchR:_The_Online_Community


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#30 2009-11-11 13:04:19

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

I like the idea.

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#31 2009-11-11 20:50:27

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

jacool wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Actually, when I was designing this layout, I had the notion in mind that all topics are inspirational (hence why there is no section called 'Inspiration'. Everything falls under the category 'Inspiration'). ^^

I was thinking that only threads which's purpose is inspiration is posted in the inspiration section.

Examples of inspiration posts:

"Could someone please help me, i don't know what to make on Scratch I need inspiration  smile "

"I saw this game called Sonic, and I thought I would make something similar, do you have any suggestions on how I could make it?"

The purpose of those two posts are inspiration while the purpose of topics like "Look at this funny video OMG!!! It's so funny" isn't really inspiration.

Of course these are just examples I came up with, someone who actually posts a thread like one of these might have another purpose.

Well, it is possible for seemingly off-topic threads threads to be Inspirational. Take the off-topic you suggested earlier ("Look at this funny video OMG!!! It's so funny" as inspirational"). Someone could turn that video into a Scratch animation. Maybe a person designs a game based off the characters in that funny video.

Topics that ask for inspiration help do need their own forum (hence my call for a 'Project ideas Help' section). But being that off-topic threads (such as "Recipe Book", "Weird Dreams", Pokémon-themed threads, etc.) have a merit of being inspiration in their own right, it doesn't make sense to completely boot them off the 'Inspiration and More' section.

But I think I see where you are going with the idea of making less categories and denormalizing the layout I was suggesting earlier. Your idea for an 'Inspiration & Collaboration' section would cover requests, collaboration help, and project ideas help. 'Off Topic' covers topics about non-Scratch games, non-Scratch community talk, and other non-Scratch related threads that do not fit anywhere else. 'Debates & Opinions' would, well, cover debates and opinions. Is this what you had in mind?  smile


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#32 2009-11-12 02:07:30

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

cheddargirl wrote:

jacool wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Actually, when I was designing this layout, I had the notion in mind that all topics are inspirational (hence why there is no section called 'Inspiration'. Everything falls under the category 'Inspiration'). ^^

I was thinking that only threads which's purpose is inspiration is posted in the inspiration section.

Examples of inspiration posts:

"Could someone please help me, i don't know what to make on Scratch I need inspiration  smile "

"I saw this game called Sonic, and I thought I would make something similar, do you have any suggestions on how I could make it?"

The purpose of those two posts are inspiration while the purpose of topics like "Look at this funny video OMG!!! It's so funny" isn't really inspiration.

Of course these are just examples I came up with, someone who actually posts a thread like one of these might have another purpose.

Well, it is possible for seemingly off-topic threads threads to be Inspirational. Take the off-topic you suggested earlier ("Look at this funny video OMG!!! It's so funny" as inspirational"). Someone could turn that video into a Scratch animation. Maybe a person designs a game based off the characters in that funny video.

Yes, but the purpose isn't often inspiration, and if the poster wants other users to look at the video, I think that more people would look in 'Off-Topic'.

cheddargirl wrote:

Topics that ask for inspiration help do need their own forum (hence my call for a 'Project ideas Help' section). But being that off-topic threads (such as "Recipe Book", "Weird Dreams", Pokémon-themed threads, etc.) have a merit of being inspiration in their own right, it doesn't make sense to completely boot them off the 'Inspiration and More' section.

But I think I see where you are going with the idea of making less categories and denormalizing the layout I was suggesting earlier. Your idea for an 'Inspiration & Collaboration' section would cover requests, collaboration help, and project ideas help. 'Off Topic' covers topics about non-Scratch games, non-Scratch community talk, and other non-Scratch related threads that do not fit anywhere else. 'Debates & Opinions' would, well, cover debates and opinions. Is this what you had in mind?  smile

Yes, that's what I had in mind  big_smile
In my opinion it would be a little too messy using many categories, and besides you Forum Moderators don't have to move as many topics if there's less categories, if you know what I mean ^^


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#33 2009-11-12 10:52:26

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

Oh yeah, you forgot to mention the "I had frosted flakes for breakfast" thread


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#34 2009-11-18 21:40:02

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

Gimme a "B"! Gimme a "U"! Gimme an "M"! Gimme a "P"! What's that spell? BUMP! lol 

Sorry for the very corny comment, but the situation just called for it.  tongue

And I think still think breaking down the 'Inspiration and More' forum section into smaller sections is a good idea.  big_smile


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#35 2009-11-18 21:54:52

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

I Think its a great Idea! iT would make a lot of sense to! 2 problems...:

1) A LOT of categories for moderators to moderate
2)Complicated to make....(I think..)


But I think it should happen!


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#36 2009-11-18 22:28:19

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

pinochio wrote:

I Think its a great Idea! iT would make a lot of sense to! 2 problems...:

1) A LOT of categories for moderators to moderate
2)Complicated to make....(I think..)


But I think it should happen!

I think it should happen, too! I would love to see it happen!  big_smile

About the problems:
1) I was thinking about the moderator issue, too. When it come to this, it's a bit difficult to foresee whether or not more categories may make the moderators job harder - more categories may not have much of an impact on the moderator's job at all, who knows? I suppose if it does become harder to moderate, perhaps more moderators could be hired.  smile

2) I think it would be fairly easy to implement. One solution would be to have the old 'Inspiration and More' forum section closed down and archived while simultaneously creating and implementing the new forum sections in the process.  big_smile


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#37 2009-11-18 22:29:56

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

cheddargirl wrote:

pinochio wrote:

I Think its a great Idea! iT would make a lot of sense to! 2 problems...:

1) A LOT of categories for moderators to moderate
2)Complicated to make....(I think..)


But I think it should happen!

About the problems:
1) I was thinking about the moderator issue, too. When it come to this, it's a bit difficult to foresee whether or not more categories may make the moderators job harder - more categories may not have much of an impact on the moderator's job at all, who knows? I suppose if it does become harder to moderate, perhaps more moderators could be hired.  smile

2) I think it would be fairly easy to implement. One solution would be to have the old 'Inspiration and More' forum section closed down and archived while simultaneously creating and implementing the new forum sections in the process.  big_smile

I do not agree with closing the old ones.... Or at least the ones that are still active...


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#38 2009-11-18 22:31:58

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

Can't there be like sub-topics? I don't want to have to go to a whole other forum like TBG.


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#39 2009-11-18 22:52:11

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

adriangl wrote:

Can't there be like sub-topics? I don't want to have to go to a whole other forum like TBG.

Oh, no, I'm not suggesting that 'Inspiration and More' be moved to a separate forum like with TBG! I was thinking that the categories could be implemented in the regular Scratch Forums.  smile


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#40 2009-11-19 07:08:51

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

I actually think this is a good idea, with there being such a variety of topics in the Inspiration & More, it can also be hard to tell what a thread is a about at first glance  smile

Of course, if this was too be done, there may be a few problems at first as there are with any new thing. But I think these would easily be solved and it would be a lot tidier  smile

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#41 2009-11-19 11:41:50

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

I still think that it should be divided into just three categories (If that was what I thought before)
But if inspiration & more is divided into many categories I think you should at least hire one more forum moderator (I would suggest Jonathanpb)
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#42 2009-11-19 17:01:12

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

jacool wrote:

I still think that it should be divided into just three categories (If that was what I thought before)
But if inspiration & more is divided into many categories I think you should at least hire one more forum moderator (I would suggest Jonathanpb)
smile

Well, we'll see.  smile  If it turns out that the splitting of 'Inspiration and More' causes the need for more moderators, the current moderators can always discuss this issue with the Scratch Team, and the Scratch Team can effectively choose a new Scratcher who they feel will best exemplify the moderator position.  smile


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#43 2009-11-19 18:53:35

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

cheddargirl wrote:

jacool wrote:

I still think that it should be divided into just three categories (If that was what I thought before)
But if inspiration & more is divided into many categories I think you should at least hire one more forum moderator (I would suggest Jonathanpb)
smile

Well, we'll see.  smile  If it turns out that the splitting of 'Inspiration and More' causes the need for more moderators, the current moderators can always discuss this issue with the Scratch Team, and the Scratch Team can effectively choose a new Scratcher who they feel will best exemplify the moderator position.  smile

I agree that Jonathanpb would be a good choice, but another election would work great as well.  smile


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#44 2009-11-20 02:01:38

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

illusionist wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

jacool wrote:

I still think that it should be divided into just three categories (If that was what I thought before)
But if inspiration & more is divided into many categories I think you should at least hire one more forum moderator (I would suggest Jonathanpb)
smile

Well, we'll see.  smile  If it turns out that the splitting of 'Inspiration and More' causes the need for more moderators, the current moderators can always discuss this issue with the Scratch Team, and the Scratch Team can effectively choose a new Scratcher who they feel will best exemplify the moderator position.  smile

I agree that Jonathanpb would be a good choice, but another election would work great as well.  smile

I don't know about an election, I think it would be better if the Scratch Team, with help from the moderators could choose one.


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#45 2009-11-20 02:38:51

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

illusionist wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

jacool wrote:

I still think that it should be divided into just three categories (If that was what I thought before)
But if inspiration & more is divided into many categories I think you should at least hire one more forum moderator (I would suggest Jonathanpb)
smile

Well, we'll see.  smile  If it turns out that the splitting of 'Inspiration and More' causes the need for more moderators, the current moderators can always discuss this issue with the Scratch Team, and the Scratch Team can effectively choose a new Scratcher who they feel will best exemplify the moderator position.  smile

I agree that Jonathanpb would be a good choice, but another election would work great as well.  smile

Noooo! Inspiration and More isn't even one of my favorite forums!  yikes


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#46 2009-11-20 02:39:52

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

cheddargirl wrote:

Gimme a "B"! Gimme a "U"! Gimme an "M"! Gimme a "P"! What's that spell? BUMP! lol 

Sorry for the very corny comment, but the situation just called for it.  tongue

And I think still think breaking down the 'Inspiration and More' forum section into smaller sections is a good idea.  big_smile

That's the best bump I've ever seen!  tongue


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#47 2009-11-20 02:41:59

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

cheddargirl wrote:

jacool wrote:

I still think that it should be divided into just three categories (If that was what I thought before)
But if inspiration & more is divided into many categories I think you should at least hire one more forum moderator (I would suggest Jonathanpb)
smile

Well, we'll see.  smile  If it turns out that the splitting of 'Inspiration and More' causes the need for more moderators, the current moderators can always discuss this issue with the Scratch Team, and the Scratch Team can effectively choose a new Scratcher who they feel will best exemplify the moderator position.  smile

For the moderator position, does the moderator have power over only the new forums, or the rest of the Scratch Forums?

Anyway, I'll vote for Jonathanpb if it happens.  smile


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#48 2009-11-20 02:43:31

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

I was just curious... how would the formatting work?
Would it be like this:

Other forums
   Forum 1
   Forum 2
   Forum 3
   and so on...

Or would it be this:

Other forum:
   Inspiration and More

And then when you click on it, you're taken to a page where it shows you the individual forums?

I'm confused.  hmm


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#49 2009-11-20 05:23:30

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

Chrischb wrote:

I was just curious... how would the formatting work?
Would it be like this:

Other forums
   Forum 1
   Forum 2
   Forum 3
   and so on...

Or would it be this:

Other forum:
   Inspiration and More

And then when you click on it, you're taken to a page where it shows you the individual forums?

I'm confused.  hmm

If the first layout was ever done, perhaps it would be better if "Other forums" was replaced with "Inspiration"? Considering Inspiration & more is the only other forum.


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#50 2009-11-20 10:36:09

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Re: I suggest that the layout of 'Inspiration and More' be changed.

Jonathanpb wrote:

illusionist wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:


Well, we'll see.  smile  If it turns out that the splitting of 'Inspiration and More' causes the need for more moderators, the current moderators can always discuss this issue with the Scratch Team, and the Scratch Team can effectively choose a new Scratcher who they feel will best exemplify the moderator position.  smile

I agree that Jonathanpb would be a good choice, but another election would work great as well.  smile

Noooo! Inspiration and More isn't even one of my favorite forums!  yikes

In Cheddargirl's suggestion, Inspiration & More isn't going to moved to a new place like TBG.
So the one who would be chosen would be moderating all the forums (Except for TBG).


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