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#26 2009-10-13 20:09:04

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Re: I'm ticked off

adriangl wrote:

floatingmagictree wrote:

BWOG wrote:

You made a bad mistake Scratch Team.

Really? I think that they made their best choice so far.

Lol, so banning Doody wasn't their best decision?

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Lets treat all users with the same respect that we treat our friends. Thank you!

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#27 2009-10-13 20:57:05

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Re: I'm ticked off

illusionist wrote:

neutral  I understand you frustration BWOG, but the Scratch team will be removing TBG because...

(1.) It often has non-scratch-related topics
(2.) Some users spend all of their time hanging around there.
(3.) Many users agree that it should be removed

Actually those are not the reasons at all.

As andresmh stated in his post in the 'Text-Based Games' forum section, TBGs will be removed due to the following two reasons:
1) they have been a source of fights and inappropriate behavior
2) they have been difficult to moderate, taking up a fair amount of time for the moderators and administrators to help out on the other Scratch forums.

However, there was a consensus that the TBGs can stimulate creativity. If there are enough volunteers with good character agreeing to moderate the forums, TBGs will simply have it's own website section. So no need to fret yet about the loss of the TBG forums.  smile


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#28 2009-10-13 21:07:10

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Re: I'm ticked off

cheddargirl wrote:

illusionist wrote:

neutral  I understand you frustration BWOG, but the Scratch team will be removing TBG because...

(1.) It often has non-scratch-related topics
(2.) Some users spend all of their time hanging around there.
(3.) Many users agree that it should be removed

Actually those are not the reasons at all.

As andresmh stated in his post in the 'Text-Based Games' forum section, TBGs will be removed due to the following two reasons:
1) they have been a source of fights and inappropriate behavior
2) they have been difficult to moderate, taking up a fair amount of time for the moderators and administrators to help out on the other Scratch forums.

However, there was a consensus that the TBGs can stimulate creativity. If there are enough volunteers with good character agreeing to moderate the forums, TBGs will simply have it's own website section. So no need to fret yet about the loss of the TBG forums.  smile

i would like to moderate. but i dont know how! is there an age limit?


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#29 2009-10-13 22:47:39

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Re: I'm ticked off

cheddargirl wrote:

illusionist wrote:

neutral  I understand you frustration BWOG, but the Scratch team will be removing TBG because...

(1.) It often has non-scratch-related topics
(2.) Some users spend all of their time hanging around there.
(3.) Many users agree that it should be removed
(4.) And many more...

Actually those are not the reasons at all.

My worst fear...  yikes  I am embarrassed now...  sad

I know arguing with a real mod is probably a bad idea, but I don't see why the reasons that I have listed are not reasons because Andres didn't mention them.  mad

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#30 2009-10-13 22:57:33

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Re: I'm ticked off

oooh now this issue just got worth looking at! the conflict became ridiculously funny! hoorah! hit me with more! I need good laughs!  big_smile


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#31 2009-10-14 01:40:25

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Re: I'm ticked off

The Scratch Team has made their decision, and we can't change it. Andrés said that they would not change their mind, so it would be foolish to try.


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#32 2009-10-14 02:41:13

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Re: I'm ticked off

illusionist wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

illusionist wrote:

neutral  I understand you frustration BWOG, but the Scratch team will be removing TBG because...

(1.) It often has non-scratch-related topics
(2.) Some users spend all of their time hanging around there.
(3.) Many users agree that it should be removed
(4.) And many more...

Actually those are not the reasons at all.

My worst fear...  yikes  I am embarrassed now...  sad

I know arguing with a real mod is probably a bad idea, but I don't see why the reasons that I have listed are not reasons because Andres didn't mention them.  mad

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#33 2009-10-14 03:35:01

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Re: I'm ticked off

MyRedNeptune wrote:

The real reasons are what Andres listed.

And not all that other stuff.

Note: Shame on you! You didn't use the special "e" (Alt 0233) in "Andrés"!


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#34 2009-10-14 03:38:40

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Re: I'm ticked off

BWOG, can't you stick to the sticky? And they won't change their minds. Andrés has stated that.

If you think it's bad to remove a popular part of the forums, remember that they are very likely going to make a website for the Text-Based Games.

You were very rude the way you insulted the Scratch Team like that. Remember, they are not just regular users. Show them some respect!

Personally, many more people seem to want it to go instead of staying. And it is going, no matter what.


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#35 2009-10-14 08:33:05

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Re: I'm ticked off

Actually, they made a good decision  smile

And I'm starting to wish people would actually read what Andres wrote  hmm
They're moving, not being deleted forever  smile

And if the Scratch team make 'bad' decisions, why do you think the Scratch community still exists without to much chaos  big_smile

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#36 2009-10-14 09:21:08

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Re: I'm ticked off

06dknibbs wrote:

08jack, your so totally cool and awesome.

why thank you.


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#37 2009-10-14 12:11:17

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Re: I'm ticked off

Jonathanpb wrote:

stick to the sticky

Lol


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#38 2009-10-14 12:39:02

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Re: I'm ticked off

floatingmagictree wrote:

BWOG wrote:

floatingmagictree wrote:


Really? I think that they made their best choice so far.

They're deleting a very popular part of the forums. How is that not a mistake?

Because, it's NOT an important part.

So...? If we deleted everything that wasn't important, Scratch ITSELF wouldn't even exist, because it's just for fun. The TBG were just for fun. So if you delete them, why not just delete Scratch altogether?


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#39 2009-10-14 13:01:56

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Re: I'm ticked off

nikkiperson2 wrote:

floatingmagictree wrote:

BWOG wrote:


They're deleting a very popular part of the forums. How is that not a mistake?

Because, it's NOT an important part.

So...? If we deleted everything that wasn't important, Scratch ITSELF wouldn't even exist, because it's just for fun. The TBG were just for fun. So if you delete them, why not just delete Scratch altogether?

Good point.


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#40 2009-10-14 15:24:54

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Re: I'm ticked off

08jackt wrote:

06dknibbs wrote:

08jack, your so totally cool and awesome.

why thank you.

I did not say that >:(
I was fake quoted :O
xD

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#41 2009-10-14 15:29:36

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Re: I'm ticked off

06dknibbs wrote:

08jackt wrote:

06dknibbs wrote:

08jack, your so totally cool and awesome.

why thank you.

I did not say that > sad
I meant to say how completely awesome and amazing Nikkiperson2 is!

You flatter me so.


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#42 2009-10-14 15:39:05

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Re: I'm ticked off

nikkiperson2 wrote:

06dknibbs wrote:

08jackt wrote:

why thank you.

I did not say that > sad
I meant to say how completely awesome and amazing Nikkiperson2 is!

You flatter me so.

Wait D:
I made a typo  yikes

I meant to post.

TheEntireUniverse + Nikkiperson2 wrote:

06dknibbs is much better ^_^ give him extra candy this halloween  big_smile

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#43 2009-10-14 15:54:54

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Re: I'm ticked off

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And then everyone gave Boinoinoi a lifetime supply of Moxie and everyone lived happily ever after and people stopped editing quotes and got back on task.


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#44 2009-10-14 17:13:51

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Re: I'm ticked off

boinoinoi wrote:

The History of the Universe wrote:

And then everyone gave Boinoinoi a lifetime supply of Moxie and everyone lived happily ever after and people stopped editing quotes and got back on task.

WAIT!!! But the prophecy is wrong! The word boinoinoi was taped onto the scroll! The real ruler of the universe and editing of all quotes was actually floatingmagictree! Hurrah!

Chrischb wrote:

Note: Shame on you! You didn't use the special "e" (Alt 0233) in "Andrés"!

You can also do Alt+130

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#45 2009-10-14 19:33:49

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Re: I'm ticked off

iamrpk wrote:

nikkiperson2 wrote:

floatingmagictree wrote:


Because, it's NOT an important part.

So...? If we deleted everything that wasn't important, Scratch ITSELF wouldn't even exist, because it's just for fun. The TBG were just for fun. So if you delete them, why not just delete Scratch altogether?

Good point.

I think FMT is trying to point out that TBGs are not important to Scratch (the term 'important' here meaning 'not integral', as in Scratch can exist without TBGs).

Anyway, to reiterate it again, the reason for deletion of TBGs is not because the Scratch Team thought of it as unimportant, but rather because they were a source of conflict among Scratchers and hard to moderate.


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#46 2009-10-15 09:02:53

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Re: I'm ticked off

cheddargirl wrote:

iamrpk wrote:

nikkiperson2 wrote:


So...? If we deleted everything that wasn't important, Scratch ITSELF wouldn't even exist, because it's just for fun. The TBG were just for fun. So if you delete them, why not just delete Scratch altogether?

Good point.

I think FMT is trying to point out that TBGs are not important to Scratch (the term 'important' here meaning 'not integral', as in Scratch can exist without TBGs).

Anyway, to reiterate it again, the reason for deletion of TBGs is not because the Scratch Team thought of it as unimportant, but rather because they were a source of conflict among Scratchers and hard to moderate.

Cheddargirl, could you lock the topic for me? It's getting a little off-topic and stuff.

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#47 2009-10-15 09:52:49

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Re: I'm ticked off

Jonathanpb wrote:

08jackt your soooooooo cool! please teach me your awesomeness!!!! i really, really want to be just like you because your so perfect!

no! to bad  sad  only i can be super awesome  smile


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#48 2009-10-15 10:58:17

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Re: I'm ticked off

Just for the sake of going off topic, I gotta say no one likes a know-it-all


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#49 2009-10-15 11:13:17

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