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#151 2009-10-04 18:20:30

gettysburg11
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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

This has turned into such a ridiculous flame war that it's not even funny anymore.


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#152 2009-10-05 00:09:23

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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

Wickimen wrote:

1425 people have seen this post as of now. 20 people agree with it. I highly doubt you're going to win this.

A lot of the views are guests, and plenty of Scratchers (especially the moderators and Scratch Team) have viewed this plenty.

Think, people!


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#153 2009-10-05 00:18:37

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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

But probably a million of them were members and didn't say they wanted it deleted.


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#154 2009-10-05 00:19:43

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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

Stop thinking that we're idiots! If you read the facts, you'd see that we're winning.

We have twenty-three people who want it to go.
Including two forum moderators and one Scratch Team member.
None of the moderators or Scratch Team are with you.
Only nine people want it to stay.

And you think we'll lose?


Honestly!


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#155 2009-10-05 00:24:46

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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

Chrischb wrote:

martianshark wrote:

I think the questions should be:
Does it help the Scratch community?
Will it help the Scratch community if it was deleted?
Does it matter if there's an off topic thread?

Does it help the Scratch community? Not at all.
Will it help the Scratch community if it was deleted? Of course! All the forum effort would go into helping other users.
Does it matter if there's an off topic thread? No, provided it's clear that it's for the people who only use the forums for the games.

Does it help the Scratch community? No
Will it help the Scratch community if it was deleted? Absolutely not. More spam=more work for moderators, and people that quit=people that were (possibly) never going to post in other forums anyway.
Does it matter if there's an off topic thread? Not really, it's a place where people can talk about things other than Scratch for a change. That's what off topic threads are for.


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#156 2009-10-05 00:25:00

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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

Scratch Team, please hurry up and make your decision. We don't want to rush you, but it's horrible. We can't stand having people yell at us (people have 'quoted' things from us that they made up, given a lame death threat, made us feel like lunatics who need to be locked up in an asylum, etc. for ages). It's horrific. Please... it bothers me to have to check posts and occasionally reply every day. Have a heart!  sad


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#157 2009-10-05 00:27:57

martianshark
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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

Jonathanpb wrote:

Scratch Team, please hurry up and make your decision. We don't want to rush you, but it's horrible. We can't stand having people yell at us (people have 'quoted' things from us that they made up, given a lame death threat, made us feel like lunatics who need to be locked up in an asylum, etc. for ages). It's horrific. Please... it bothers me to have to check posts and occasionally reply every day. Have a heart!  sad

Have a heart yourself!  sad  You don't seem to care at all about other people. And also, do you think making a decision is going to stop people from yelling at you? People are probably going to be mad at you for a very long time.


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#158 2009-10-05 00:30:11

martianshark
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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

Jonathanpb wrote:

Stop thinking that we're idiots! If you read the facts, you'd see that we're winning.

We have twenty-three people who want it to go.
Including two forum moderators and one Scratch Team member.
None of the moderators or Scratch Team are with you.
Only nine people want it to stay.

And you think we'll lose?


Honestly!

Not nine, there's a lot more, they just haven't posted/haven't been noticed.


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#159 2009-10-05 00:31:49

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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

Quick suggestion for JPB: Close this topic. I think it would benifit all of us...  hmm  We don't want a flame war on our hands do we?

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#160 2009-10-05 00:37:58

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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

I think this has turned into a flame war anyway.


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#161 2009-10-05 00:50:50

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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

martianshark wrote:

I think this has turned into a flame war anyway.

This.


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#162 2009-10-05 00:58:29

martianshark
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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

What?


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#163 2009-10-05 01:55:20

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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

martianshark wrote:

What?

"This" in that context means "I agree".

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I really don't want to keep this arguing up, but I want to point something out.

Here are the main forums:
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(Scratch in Other Languages is in between)
Here are TBG and IaM:
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Notice the fact that they are in completely different sections of the forums. If the forums were the universe, those would be the same as two different planets. Some people look through the offtopic section and some stay in the main forums. Some go to both. The decision is completely up to them. When you suddenly say the offtopic "planet" doesn't help this one in any way so it needs to be destroyed, it doesn't go by easily. (I know it would be more severe if you thought a planet needed to be destroyed just for doing nothing, but this follows some of the same logic.) That's why you're so hated by the people who go to the TBG most of the time, you basically say that you don't like the fact that they exist in the same universe and want them to either give up what they like to do or go somewhere else.

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#164 2009-10-05 02:56:34

Paddle2See
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Re: I suggest that the Text-Based Games be deleted.

Okay, I think all the good arguments on this topic have been made...now it's just a shouting match.  Let's sit back and see what the Scratch Team decides.  Thanks for all your input - this topic is now closed.


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