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#1 2009-09-15 13:34:20

Mozaz
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60 Second Rule Suggestions

We all know about the 60 second rule; where you can't post twice within 60 seconds. This is here to prevent spamming, which is understandable since we don't want spamming on our forums but it is quite annoying.

I have thought up two suggestions on how we can stop spamming and reduce the annoyance for everyone.

The first is to reduce the time to something like 20 seconds or 30 seconds. This is more reasonable and will still be a big enough time to disencourage spammers.

The second suggestion is to have a similar rule with the signatures. You need over 50 posts to be able to use a signature, which is a good rule. This could be implemented into the 60 second rule; if you have over 50 posts then the 60 second rule is reduced or removed completely.

I hope you agree with my suggestions  smile


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#2 2009-09-15 13:36:17

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

I suggest 45 seconds
It takes like 30 seconds to browse and 15 seconds to type something


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#3 2009-09-16 02:05:14

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

Mr_X, supposing what you're saying is exactly true, then it's as if there were no rule. Every time they wanted to post, the forty-five seconds would be up.
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I really like your second suggestion, because most spammers would give up on trying to reach fifty posts. Fifty minutes required at minimum, so we're very safe... unless they take their time.

For your first suggestion, we have to be careful. Making the time limit too small would be easy for the spammers; they can just skid along and place posts as they please. No, because the next thing they'll do is reach fifty posts (assuming your first suggestion gets approved) and "party". The only solution is to ban them. *sigh*
But isn't a minute a nice, solid amount of time?


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#4 2009-09-16 16:16:27

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

Chrischb wrote:

Mr_X, supposing what you're saying is exactly true, then it's as if there were no rule. Every time they wanted to post, the forty-five seconds would be up.
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I really like your second suggestion, because most spammers would give up on trying to reach fifty posts. Fifty minutes required at minimum, so we're very safe... unless they take their time.

For your first suggestion, we have to be careful. Making the time limit too small would be easy for the spammers; they can just skid along and place posts as they please. No, because the next thing they'll do is reach fifty posts (assuming your first suggestion gets approved) and "party". The only solution is to ban them. *sigh*
But isn't a minute a nice, solid amount of time?

I can see what you're saying about the first suggestion, so yeah I think I'll re-think that. Thanks for the comments so far  smile


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#5 2009-09-17 11:31:15

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

Chrischb wrote:

Mr_X, supposing what you're saying is exactly true, then it's as if there were no rule. Every time they wanted to post, the forty-five seconds would be up.

So?
How is 30 seconds different
It'll be exactly the same, and by typing a post I meant NOT SPAM
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#6 2009-09-18 23:12:46

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

I don't really know what to think- and not just because I have less than 50 posts.  big_smile

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#7 2009-09-19 03:16:07

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

Mr_X wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

Mr_X, supposing what you're saying is exactly true, then it's as if there were no rule. Every time they wanted to post, the forty-five seconds would be up.

So?
How is 30 seconds different
It'll be exactly the same, and by typing a post I meant NOT SPAM
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Thirty seconds to browse, and fifteen seconds to type a post. 30 + 15 = 45. That makes the time limit.


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#8 2009-09-19 11:08:43

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

This is an excellent idea. I personally prefer option number two, because it works well for me  big_smile

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#9 2009-09-19 11:12:03

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

45 seconds is ideal......no easy spammers and it is not as long as 60 seconds.


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#10 2009-09-19 13:08:12

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

Arr, the Scratch team be probably not doing this any time soon matey  smile

But patience is reasonable if it be stopping those spammers  big_smile


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#11 2009-09-19 13:55:54

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

I think 60secs is both annoying and needed. I don't like it, but I can live with it.


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#12 2009-09-19 15:30:49

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

I was thinking why not ask the Scratch Team directly to reduce are times, that way there is less likely chance of people spamming to get 50 so they can spam faster. But if you start to spam, then your time limit will be increased. What do you think?

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#13 2009-09-19 16:05:59

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

Arr, they shall has the spam code thing mateys!


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#14 2009-09-20 02:43:22

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

But what's wrong with 60 seconds? The only times you will be likely to be refused are in the Text-Based-Games, probably.


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#15 2009-09-20 10:43:06

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

Chrischb wrote:

But what's wrong with 60 seconds? The only times you will be likely to be refused are in the Text-Based-Games, probably.

I've been refused many a time. Including with this post. And I never use the Text Games section.

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#16 2009-09-21 03:18:29

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

coolstuff wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

But what's wrong with 60 seconds? The only times you will be likely to be refused are in the Text-Based-Games, probably.

I've been refused many a time. Including with this post. And I never use the Text Games section.

Neither do I, and I get hit all the time. I open multiple tabs then post in 1st then 2nd then 3rd until I post in every tab or so. So I can get hit so many times I accidentally loose a post every once in a while.

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#17 2009-09-21 05:47:38

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

I think it's best to put it technically.

The average time to find a topic to spam in is 10 seconds (if you have nice internet speed).

The average time to type your message varies. If you can't touch-type and you're sending a long message, you won't have to worry about the 60 second rule. If you can touch-type, it'd take about 30 seconds. The smartest thing to do here (for the spammers) is to use Control + C and Control + V. The first copies something, and the second puts it down. In this way, you could type a long message in a second. You type up the message earlier, highlight it, and press Control + C. Then at the post area, you just click in the typing area and press Control + V.

This adds up to approximately 20 seconds. Of course, if you weren't using the Control + C and V, it'd take like 30 seconds.

You can't just expand the time limit by five or ten seconds... that's too easy for the spammers. And if they type really slowly and aren't using the shortcut, they won't have to worry about the rule at all. So it's best to give 20 seconds of a delay... and to be safe, you can make it 30 or 40.

If you are typing a reasonable post (like this one), you probably won't have to worry about the rule.

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#18 2009-09-21 05:55:52

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Re: 60 Second Rule Suggestions

Except, if we do it so it's 20 then they have enough time to do the post.  hmm  I like my idea though.  smile

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