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#7826 2013-04-11 05:00:09

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I would go, but I'm not AS good as some other people here, and I don't have the money to pay for it either  sad


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#7827 2013-04-11 05:34:41

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bharvey wrote:

So, am I crazy or what?

I assumed that was a given...

Hardmath123 wrote:

nonretina MacBook Pro

Meh, I hear they're disappointing anyway  tongue

Go ahead!  big_smile  Or just tweak Growl to use Notification Center...  tongue

Doesn't it guzzle internet?

It makes a single HTTP request every minute (unless there's a new page).

I can already see the stylized "S" character on my menu bar.

That would indeed be cool! Let me know when it's done  wink


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#7828 2013-04-11 05:38:18

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I gave up—I'm not willing to fight the evil horrors of Objective-C to get that done, especially since I can just refresh the page every so often.

314 pages! Celebrate! It's going to be a while until 3,141 pages, right?


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#7829 2013-04-11 10:47:09

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Hardmath123 wrote:

314 pages! Celebrate! It's going to be a while until 3,141 pages, right?

Everyone makes such a fuss over pi, and nobody ever notices the neglected younger sibling e, which is (imho) much more important mathematically.  But someday it'll be e whose foot fits in the glass slipper and who gets to marry the prince.


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#7830 2013-04-11 10:48:37

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bharvey wrote:

Hardmath123 wrote:

314 pages! Celebrate! It's going to be a while until 3,141 pages, right?

Everyone makes such a fuss over pi, and nobody ever notices the neglected younger sibling e, which is (imho) much more important mathematically.  But someday it'll be e whose foot fits in the glass slipper and who gets to marry the prince.

I thought that would be tau


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#7831 2013-04-11 10:59:16

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bharvey wrote:

Hardmath123 wrote:

314 pages! Celebrate! It's going to be a while until 3,141 pages, right?

Everyone makes such a fuss over pi, and nobody ever notices the neglected younger sibling e, which is (imho) much more important mathematically.  But someday it'll be e whose foot fits in the glass slipper and who gets to marry the prince.

Agreed.

(That list inspired a Scratch project of mine…)

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#7832 2013-04-11 11:20:11

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Hardmath123 wrote:

bharvey wrote:

Hardmath123 wrote:

314 pages! Celebrate! It's going to be a while until 3,141 pages, right?

Everyone makes such a fuss over pi, and nobody ever notices the neglected younger sibling e, which is (imho) much more important mathematically.  But someday it'll be e whose foot fits in the glass slipper and who gets to marry the prince.

Agreed.

(That list inspired a Scratch project of mine…)

What can "e" do besides find Golden Rectangles?  hmm


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#7833 2013-04-11 11:30:03

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That's phi…


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#7834 2013-04-11 11:34:12

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mu.org/~doug wrote:

9) pi ~= 3.14 while e ~=2.718281828459045.

Is there some definition of "~=" that I don't know about?


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#7835 2013-04-11 11:39:01

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blob8108 wrote:

mu.org/~doug wrote:

9) pi ~= 3.14 while e ~=2.718281828459045.

Is there some definition of "~=" that I don't know about?

Approx.


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#7836 2013-04-11 11:44:34

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mythbusteranimator wrote:

blob8108 wrote:

mu.org/~doug wrote:

9) pi ~= 3.14 while e ~=2.718281828459045.

Is there some definition of "~=" that I don't know about?

Approx.

Yes, I know; but is there some definition of how approximate?

Otherwise you might as well say "pi ~= 3.14159265359 while e ~= 2.72"

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#7837 2013-04-11 12:29:26

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

blob8108 wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

blob8108 wrote:

Is there some definition of "~=" that I don't know about?

Approx.

Yes, I know; but is there some definition of how approximate?

Otherwise you might as well say "pi ~= 3.14159265359 while e ~= 2.72"

Take a list of n numbers :1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8...N
Calculate the factorial n! of each number
Calculate the inverse of each new number : 1/n!
Sum these numbers Sigma 1/n! add 1 -> 2.7182787698...
A good example for MAP functions.

With N=32 you get 15 correct decimals
Easy to remember 2,7 1828 1828 45 90 45

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#7838 2013-04-11 12:31:10

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

blob8108 wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

blob8108 wrote:


Is there some definition of "~=" that I don't know about?

Approx.

Yes, I know; but is there some definition of how approximate?

Otherwise you might as well say "pi ~= 3.14159265359 while e ~= 2.72"

That's why that's only reason number 9…


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#7839 2013-04-11 12:35:31

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Hardmath123 wrote:

blob8108 wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:


Approx.

Yes, I know; but is there some definition of how approximate?

Otherwise you might as well say "pi ~= 3.14159265359 while e ~= 2.72"

That's why that's only reason number 9…

Aren't those really just joke examples?  tongue


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#7840 2013-04-11 12:37:59

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xly wrote:

Take a list of n numbers :1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8...
Calculate the factorial n! of each number
Calculate the inverse of each new number : 1/n!
Sum these numbers Sigma 1/n! add 1 -> 2.7182787698...
A good example for MAP functions.

Ooh, that was fun!

Code:

#lang racket
(define (inverse n) (/ 1 n))
(define (fact n)
  (if (<= n 1) 1
      (* n (fact (- n 1)))))
(define (sum x)
  (if (eq? x '()) 0
      (+ (car x) (sum (cdr x)))))
(exact->inexact (sum (map inverse (map fact (range 100)))))

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#7841 2013-04-11 12:40:05

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blob8108 wrote:

xly wrote:

Take a list of n numbers :1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8...
Calculate the factorial n! of each number
Calculate the inverse of each new number : 1/n!
Sum these numbers Sigma 1/n! add 1 -> 2.7182787698...
A good example for MAP functions.

Ooh, that was fun!

Code:

#lang racket
(define (inverse n) (/ 1 n))
(define (fact n)
  (if (<= n 1) 1
      (* n (fact (- n 1)))))
(define (sum x)
  (if (eq? x '()) 0
      (+ (car x) (sum (cdr x)))))
(exact->inexact (sum (map inverse (map fact (range 100)))))

I do not get Lisp. xD


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#7842 2013-04-11 12:41:33

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mythbusteranimator wrote:

I do not get Lisp. xD

Read SICP!  big_smile


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#7843 2013-04-11 12:46:28

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Ah, yes, another thing on my list of 101 things to do this summer:

Chess AI
SICP
The Hobbit
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep (long story about that)
Re-watch all Star Wars
Re-read Hitchhiker's Guide
Do complex numbers and trig with AoPS (intermediate algebra too, if I have time)
Write a sci-fi book
Download/use blender
Take over the world (again, if I have time)

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#7844 2013-04-11 12:55:07

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I cannot come - would love to join to some sessions in skype or something  smile

@Hardmath123, wanna collab on that chess AI?  smile

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#7845 2013-04-11 13:02:46

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Hardmath123 wrote:

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep

What's the long story? Also, why are you rewatching/rereading things? I thought the world's already producing content faster than one can consume it, without doing things twice...

Take over the world (again, if I have time)

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#7846 2013-04-11 13:41:39

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@roijac: Maybe, if I get around to starting (all I have is a UI so far). It's in JS.

@blob8108: Because the world isn't producing enough good content. Hey, at least I'm not one of those people who reads LOTR 9 times or something…  big_smile


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#7847 2013-04-11 13:54:30

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

Hardmath123 wrote:

314 pages! Celebrate! It's going to be a while until 3,141 pages, right?

Everyone makes such a fuss over pi, and nobody ever notices the neglected younger sibling e, which is (imho) much more important mathematically.  But someday it'll be e whose foot fits in the glass slipper and who gets to marry the prince.

When you play e on the piano, it sounds way cooler than pi.

You can't have an e day, though.

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#7848 2013-04-11 14:12:24

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Feb 7th, 2018.  wink


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#7849 2013-04-11 14:17:58

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Hardmath123 wrote:

Because the world isn't producing enough good content.

Right, so why Star Wars and Hitchhiker's Guide?  At least reread The Cider House Rules[/i] or [i]The Left Hand of Darkness or Speaker for the Dead.

Or SICP or Gödel, Escher, Bach.

But I bet there are good things you haven't read yet.  Like all of Peter Dickinson, for example.


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#7850 2013-04-11 14:20:18

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blob8108 wrote:

Code:

#lang racket
(define (inverse n) (/ 1 n))
(define (sum x)
  (if (eq? x '()) 0
      (+ (car x) (sum (cdr x)))))

You can use / monadically, you know.  And you can (apply + <list>).

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