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soupoftomato wrote:

Regarding you saying that more hooks doesn't equal more grip, that would be because you need to have more surface area covered by the hooks. Putting the hooks entirely side by side will not help as much as spreading bunches of hooks out a little bit over your hand.

I fail to see the logic there. Yes, surface area is obviously important, but the same amount of hooks will still be touching the same amount of wall. They'll just be spread out more, and since the gaps themselves certainly don't add to the grip, I fail to see how that's supposed to work.

Anyway, you can see the layout of the hooks in that diagram I posted a while ago. You can see there that they're covering a decent amount of my hand, and I can't really put many more on without it stopping my hand from being able to move.

Last edited by calebxy (2013-02-19 03:12:13)

PonyvilleSlugger wrote:

calebxy wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Regarding you saying that more hooks doesn't equal more grip, that would be because you need to have more surface area covered by the hooks. Putting the hooks entirely side by side will not help as much as spreading bunches of hooks out a little bit over your hand.

I fail to see the logic there. Yes, surface area is obviously important, but the same amount of hooks will still be touching the same amount of wall. They'll just be spread out more, and since the gaps themselves certainly don't add to the grip, I fail to see how that's supposed to work.

Anyway, you can see the layout of the hooks in that diagram I posted a while ago. You can see there that they're covering a decent amount of my hand, and I can't really put many more on without it stopping my hand from being able to move.

You may want to learn some physics and whatnot before lifting yourself off the ground.

Ever wonder why tanks don't have 4 wheels? The larger the surface area the more the weight is spread out, having 1 big hook would be the same as 500 little hooks given the same area covered, it's not about how many hooks but the surface area the hooks are covering, bigger gloves would support a bigger person, regardless of hooks.

The only reason why you would want more hooks is if the hooks weren't strong enough to take the pressure, by adding more you'd be spreading your weight across more hooks.

I'm not actually that great with science past this point, but you may want to read up about surface area and weight distribution just because it will help you immensely.

If I hold my hand out flat, making it streamlined, and then press it against the table, the friction will make it difficult to move. However, if I spread my hand out so it covers more area, but only my fingers touch the table, then it's going to be much easier. The point of having more surface area is that more of the object is touching the surface, therefore distributing the weight more evenly/creating more friction. If I move the hooks further apart to cover more area, the hooks will still be touching the exact same surface area on the wall, because it's only the hooks themselves that are touching the wall, not the gaps between them. The important part is the surface area of the contact points.

Last edited by calebxy (2013-02-19 05:25:36)

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Hey, maybe you should tilt the hooks so that they are at an angle to dig into the wall better? It (might) give it better grip. If you also look at how spiders climb, it has hairs on their feet that are sticky and spread out to increase surface area. If you do something to increase surface area without increasing the area of the boards, you can possibly get a good ratio of grip-to-size (preferably with more grip than size). BTW, I have no idea if this will work. 

calebxy wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Regarding you saying that more hooks doesn't equal more grip, that would be because you need to have more surface area covered by the hooks. Putting the hooks entirely side by side will not help as much as spreading bunches of hooks out a little bit over your hand.

I fail to see the logic there. Yes, surface area is obviously important, but the same amount of hooks will still be touching the same amount of wall. They'll just be spread out more, and since the gaps themselves certainly don't add to the grip, I fail to see how that's supposed to work.

Anyway, you can see the layout of the hooks in that diagram I posted a while ago. You can see there that they're covering a decent amount of my hand, and I can't really put many more on without it stopping my hand from being able to move.

Do you know why animals spread themselves out on the ice?

The less of them is at one spot, the less likely that specific spot is to break.
That's surface area.

Following that, picture your hand, and specifically the hooks making contact with the wall, the animal, and consider the grip between the hooks and wall the ice.

Last edited by soupoftomato (2013-04-05 22:31:07)

soupoftomato wrote:

calebxy wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Regarding you saying that more hooks doesn't equal more grip, that would be because you need to have more surface area covered by the hooks. Putting the hooks entirely side by side will not help as much as spreading bunches of hooks out a little bit over your hand.

I fail to see the logic there. Yes, surface area is obviously important, but the same amount of hooks will still be touching the same amount of wall. They'll just be spread out more, and since the gaps themselves certainly don't add to the grip, I fail to see how that's supposed to work.

Anyway, you can see the layout of the hooks in that diagram I posted a while ago. You can see there that they're covering a decent amount of my hand, and I can't really put many more on without it stopping my hand from being able to move.

Do you know why animals spread themselves out on the ice?

The less of them is at one spot, the less likely that specific spot is to break.
That's surface area.

Following that, picture your hand, and specifically the hooks making contact with the wall, the animal, and consider the grip between the hooks and wall the ice.

That's weight distribution, not anything to do with grip. If you can find an example that is actually applicable, then I'll be more than happy to reconsider. And I gave you an example that proves my point; press your hand on a table and pull it back, first with your hand spread out and then with it not. It makes no difference, because it's still the exact same area of flesh that's touching the table. Friction doesn't care about the space in between, and friction is what we're talking about here, not weight distribution.

Last edited by calebxy (2013-04-06 07:03:49)

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bananaman99 wrote:

Anyone else heard of the Speech Jammer? If not, google it, it's pretty sweet 

Ah yes, I read about that a while ago. It's very cool. But... what's it got to do with this topic? 

bananaman99 wrote:

calebxy wrote:

bananaman99 wrote:

Anyone else heard of the Speech Jammer? If not, google it, it's pretty sweet 

Ah yes, I read about that a while ago. It's very cool. But... what's it got to do with this topic? 

It's an invention I find ridiculous    (even though I didnt make it)

Oh I see. Well this topic isn't for ridiculous inventions in general, it's about the inventions I'm making in my blog.