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#251 2013-01-18 08:47:41

goch
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

Blazingwave wrote:

Auto007 wrote:

Blazingwave wrote:

I bet there will be alot of polls/votes and chat sort of projects after scratch 2.0 is released. Its lucky scratch 2.0 wasnt available in the time of the USA elections or I can imagine and uproar of debates on actual projects as well as hundreds of voting polls on scratch  hmm  We'll have to prepare for the next USA election.

We should ban such projects.....
Because Scratch is non political site. Also  That can cause a conflict between scratchers.

Thats exactly what happened in USA elections. Some election topics got even front paged! (top viewed, remixed, loved and new projects)
Remixed for people adding their votes
Loved from people who agree with that person on political stuff
Viewed for people who find it interesting.
It was a disaster, heated arguments in comments etc.
That was without cloud variables...
Here is an example of one such project that got front paged. (most viewed I think)
Check its comments  hmm

What's wrong if young people are interested in politics? Politics is important for all of us, so why shouldn't we make Scratch projects dealing with politics, elections, political parties and so on?

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#252 2013-01-18 16:25:41

dr3w8
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Registered: 2011-07-29
Posts: 81

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

goch wrote:

Blazingwave wrote:

Auto007 wrote:


We should ban such projects.....
Because Scratch is non political site. Also  That can cause a conflict between scratchers.

Thats exactly what happened in USA elections. Some election topics got even front paged! (top viewed, remixed, loved and new projects)
Remixed for people adding their votes
Loved from people who agree with that person on political stuff
Viewed for people who find it interesting.
It was a disaster, heated arguments in comments etc.
That was without cloud variables...
Here is an example of one such project that got front paged. (most viewed I think)
Check its comments  hmm

What's wrong if young people are interested in politics? Politics is important for all of us, so why shouldn't we make Scratch projects dealing with politics, elections, political parties and so on?

People could get in arguments about politics.


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#253 2013-01-18 17:51:42

supermattyb11
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Registered: 2010-02-24
Posts: 44

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

dr3w8 wrote:

goch wrote:

Blazingwave wrote:


Thats exactly what happened in USA elections. Some election topics got even front paged! (top viewed, remixed, loved and new projects)
Remixed for people adding their votes
Loved from people who agree with that person on political stuff
Viewed for people who find it interesting.
It was a disaster, heated arguments in comments etc.
That was without cloud variables...
Here is an example of one such project that got front paged. (most viewed I think)
Check its comments  hmm

What's wrong if young people are interested in politics? Politics is important for all of us, so why shouldn't we make Scratch projects dealing with politics, elections, political parties and so on?

People could get in arguments about politics.

People could get in arguments about anything. As long as the ultimate goals of a Scratch project are not to be false-information propaganda, purposefully harmful or explicit, or strike down any Scratcher's personal belif, then we all should be OK with the project.

In Scratch 2.0, I hope that the overall desire to enhance one's programming abilities and to learn things from others inside a helpful community will override any hatred toward others. As long as the project isn't hateful toward another specific person or group, then we all should be fine with the project existing  wink

Let's make Scratch 2.0 a fresh start, with no hatred and plenty of creativity!

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#254 2013-01-19 05:45:19

Auto007
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Registered: 2012-11-25
Posts: 100+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

Blazingwave wrote:

Auto007 wrote:

Blazingwave wrote:

I bet there will be alot of polls/votes and chat sort of projects after scratch 2.0 is released. Its lucky scratch 2.0 wasnt available in the time of the USA elections or I can imagine and uproar of debates on actual projects as well as hundreds of voting polls on scratch  hmm  We'll have to prepare for the next USA election.

We should ban such projects.....
Because Scratch is non political site. Also  That can cause a conflict between scratchers.

Thats exactly what happened in USA elections. Some election topics got even front paged! (top viewed, remixed, loved and new projects)
Remixed for people adding their votes
Loved from people who agree with that person on political stuff
Viewed for people who find it interesting.
It was a disaster, heated arguments in comments etc.
That was without cloud variables...
Here is an example of one such project that got front paged. (most viewed I think)
Check its comments  hmm

So we should add a filter of politics .
To filter out politics.
Can you show me how to make a chat-room script with cloud variables in script workshop ?

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#255 2013-01-19 08:48:43

Cozyhut3
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Registered: 2010-02-06
Posts: 500+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

Auto007 wrote:

Blazingwave wrote:

Auto007 wrote:


We should ban such projects.....
Because Scratch is non political site. Also  That can cause a conflict between scratchers.

Thats exactly what happened in USA elections. Some election topics got even front paged! (top viewed, remixed, loved and new projects)
Remixed for people adding their votes
Loved from people who agree with that person on political stuff
Viewed for people who find it interesting.
It was a disaster, heated arguments in comments etc.
That was without cloud variables...
Here is an example of one such project that got front paged. (most viewed I think)
Check its comments  hmm

So we should add a filter of politics .
To filter out politics.
Can you show me how to make a chat-room script with cloud variables in script workshop ?

I didn't think chat rooms were going to be allowed.  yikes

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#256 2013-01-19 09:59:14

Auto007
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Registered: 2012-11-25
Posts: 100+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

Cozyhut3 wrote:

Auto007 wrote:

Blazingwave wrote:


Thats exactly what happened in USA elections. Some election topics got even front paged! (top viewed, remixed, loved and new projects)
Remixed for people adding their votes
Loved from people who agree with that person on political stuff
Viewed for people who find it interesting.
It was a disaster, heated arguments in comments etc.
That was without cloud variables...
Here is an example of one such project that got front paged. (most viewed I think)
Check its comments  hmm

So we should add a filter of politics
To filter out politics.
Can you show me how to make a chat-room script with cloud variables in script workshop ?

I didn't think chat rooms were going to be allowed  yikes

Please say this is a joke !

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#257 2013-01-19 10:00:21

Auto007
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Registered: 2012-11-25
Posts: 100+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

Cozyhut3 wrote:

Auto007 wrote:

Blazingwave wrote:


Thats exactly what happened in USA elections. Some election topics got even front paged! (top viewed, remixed, loved and new projects)
Remixed for people adding their votes
Loved from people who agree with that person on political stuff
Viewed for people who find it interesting.
It was a disaster, heated arguments in comments etc.
That was without cloud variables...
Here is an example of one such project that got front paged. (most viewed I think)
Check its comments  hmm

So we should add a filter of politics
To filter out politics.
Can you show me how to make a chat-room script with cloud variables in script workshop ?

I didn't think chat rooms were going to be allowed  yikes

Please say this is a joke !

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#258 2013-01-19 10:01:56

dr3w8
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Registered: 2011-07-29
Posts: 81

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

There was a (scripted) chat room on the public alpha site of scratch 2.0 on Scratch Day 2012.


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#259 2013-01-19 19:01:37

Mokat
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Registered: 2011-12-08
Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

goch wrote:

Blazingwave wrote:

Auto007 wrote:


We should ban such projects.....
Because Scratch is non political site. Also  That can cause a conflict between scratchers.

Thats exactly what happened in USA elections. Some election topics got even front paged! (top viewed, remixed, loved and new projects)
Remixed for people adding their votes
Loved from people who agree with that person on political stuff
Viewed for people who find it interesting.
It was a disaster, heated arguments in comments etc.
That was without cloud variables...
Here is an example of one such project that got front paged. (most viewed I think)
Check its comments  hmm

What's wrong if young people are interested in politics? Politics is important for all of us, so why shouldn't we make Scratch projects dealing with politics, elections, political parties and so on?

Maybe instead of removing such projects entirely, we could mark them as Not for Everyone (which basically means that the project can't be frontpaged but people can still view it)


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#260 2013-01-20 00:38:49

Auto007
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Registered: 2012-11-25
Posts: 100+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

That a perfect suggestion , I think.
are chat rooms really not going to be allowed?

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#261 2013-01-20 01:32:25

kayybee
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Registered: 2009-12-07
Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

Auto007 wrote:

That a perfect suggestion , I think.
are chat rooms really not going to be allowed?

well, considering they're already not allowed, they shouldn't be allowed in 2.0...

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#262 2013-01-20 02:16:59

GeonoTRON2000
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Registered: 2009-12-24
Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

kayybee wrote:

Auto007 wrote:

That a perfect suggestion , I think.
are chat rooms really not going to be allowed?

well, considering they're already not allowed, they shouldn't be allowed in 2.0...

Mesh chats are allowed (I think, never been called out for them.)  I don't know if cloud variables will be like mesh or like the comments system (in terms of moderation.)


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#263 2013-01-20 06:20:27

Scratchmad525
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Registered: 2012-12-14
Posts: 7

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

So, what sort of new blocks will it have?

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#264 2013-01-20 10:34:26

supermattyb11
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Registered: 2010-02-24
Posts: 44

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

Scratchmad525 wrote:

So, what sort of new blocks will it have?

This is all the information you'll need going into Scratch 2.0.

Last edited by supermattyb11 (2013-01-20 10:35:01)

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#265 2013-01-20 22:30:33

minecraft761
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Registered: 2012-10-22
Posts: 10

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

Here's some blocks for 2.0!

if () or ()
  
end

wait until () or ()

broadcast [v] or [v]

previous costume

<mouse up?>

repeat until () or ()
what do you think about that?

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#266 2013-01-21 00:00:27

ScratchReallyROCKS
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Registered: 2009-04-22
Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

minecraft761 wrote:

Here's some blocks for 2.0!

if () or ()
  
end

wait until () or ()

broadcast [v] or [v]

previous costume

<mouse up?>

repeat until () or ()
what do you think about that?

All of those blocks can currently be accomplished. Except for the broadcast one, how would that work?


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#267 2013-01-21 09:36:18

LordAwesome123
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Registered: 2011-01-18
Posts: 100+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

kayybee wrote:

Auto007 wrote:

That a perfect suggestion , I think.
are chat rooms really not going to be allowed?

well, considering they're already not allowed, they shouldn't be allowed in 2.0...

Chatrooms are going to be allowed, in fact, I have one of my own on the site (Yeah, I'm an alpha tester).


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#268 2013-01-21 15:43:32

bullelk12
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

Yeeeeeessssssssss!


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#269 2013-01-21 16:59:03

Mokat
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Registered: 2011-12-08
Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

minecraft761 wrote:

Here's some blocks for 2.0!

if () or ()
  
end

wait until () or ()

broadcast [v] or [v]

previous costume

<mouse up?>

repeat until () or ()
what do you think about that?

I kinda doubt that most of those'll be implemented...


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#270 2013-01-21 17:12:05

Devloper123
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Registered: 2011-11-27
Posts: 100+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

supermattyb11 wrote:

Devloper123 wrote:

when gf clicked
repeat until I am a Scratch 2.0 Tester
say[Its been 4 Months since i signed up]for(2)secs

It doesn't really matter how long you've been signed up on Scratch. Everyone is invited to Scratch 2.0 Beta!

I'm saying I've signed up to  be a tester not only been here 4 months


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#271 2013-01-21 17:50:01

johnpocahontas
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Registered: 2012-05-27
Posts: 9

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

WOW, there was some heated argument in those comments!

goch wrote:

Blazingwave wrote:

Auto007 wrote:


We should ban such projects.....
Because Scratch is non political site. Also  That can cause a conflict between scratchers.

Thats exactly what happened in USA elections. Some election topics got even front paged! (top viewed, remixed, loved and new projects)
Remixed for people adding their votes
Loved from people who agree with that person on political stuff
Viewed for people who find it interesting.
It was a disaster, heated arguments in comments etc.
That was without cloud variables...
Here is an example of one such project that got front paged. (most viewed I think)
Check its comments  hmm

What's wrong if young people are interested in politics? Politics is important for all of us, so why shouldn't we make Scratch projects dealing with politics, elections, political parties and so on?


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#272 2013-01-21 18:03:28

RedRocker227
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Registered: 2011-10-26
Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

minecraft761 wrote:

Here's some blocks for 2.0!

if () or ()
  
end

wait until () or ()

broadcast [v] or [v]

previous costume

<mouse up?>

repeat until () or ()
what do you think about that?

Why not just use the "or" operator...? And for <mouse up> just do <not<mouse down>>, and for previous costume do switch to costume ((costume #)-1)


Why

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#273 2013-01-21 18:10:59

OrcaCat
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Registered: 2010-06-30
Posts: 500+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

RedRocker227 wrote:

minecraft761 wrote:

Here's some blocks for 2.0!

if () or ()
  
end

wait until () or ()

broadcast [v] or [v]

previous costume

<mouse up?>

repeat until () or ()
what do you think about that?

Why not just use the "or" operator...? And for <mouse up> just do <not<mouse down>>, and for previous costume do switch to costume ((costume #)-1)

Yes, you can do all of those in 1.4.

If <<>or<>

end
wait until <<boolean1> or <boolean2>>

broadcast [message1 v]
broadcast [message2 v]

switch costume to ((costume#)-(1))

<not<mouse down?>>

Last edited by OrcaCat (2013-01-21 18:12:55)


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#274 2013-01-21 18:13:27

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Posts: 500+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

Mokat wrote:

minecraft761 wrote:

Here's some blocks for 2.0!

if () or ()
  
end

wait until () or ()

broadcast [v] or [v]

previous costume

<mouse up?>

repeat until () or ()
what do you think about that?

I kinda doubt that most of those'll be implemented...

That's because you can already do them.


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#275 2013-01-21 19:02:50

kayybee
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Registered: 2009-12-07
Posts: 1000+

Re: Scratch 2.0 will be open for beta testing starting January 28th!

LordAwesome123 wrote:

kayybee wrote:

Auto007 wrote:

That a perfect suggestion , I think.
are chat rooms really not going to be allowed?

well, considering they're already not allowed, they shouldn't be allowed in 2.0...

Chatrooms are going to be allowed, in fact, I have one of my own on the site (Yeah, I'm an alpha tester).

I've been on several (like 777w's and laternpfahl's) but I'm not sure if they'll be allowed when 2.0 becomes public. Because right now (and especially in alpha, with just us curators and mods) there aren't too many people and most of them the Scratch Team trusts, they may allow it.

Or have the ST said "chatrooms are going to be allowed in when 2.0 comes out"?

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