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#26 2012-12-30 15:33:25

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Re: New blocks in scratch

bubby3 wrote:

the clone blocks can fill up the screen if

when gf clicked
forever
  clone
end

There is a limit for clones.


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#27 2012-12-30 15:53:06

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Re: New blocks in scratch

Does someone other than me not understand the last three posts?


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#28 2012-12-30 16:09:23

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Re: New blocks in scratch

this block is good

go to url [www.google.com]

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#29 2012-12-30 16:33:47

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Re: New blocks in scratch

bubby3 wrote:

this block is good

go to url [www.google.com]

No it is not. See:

go to url [virusvirus.bad]//Not a real address
go to url [swearmeanstuff.bad]//Not a real address


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#30 2012-12-30 17:04:33

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Re: New blocks in scratch

The search in google block "infinite search" problem could be solved if it didn't open a new tab but replaced the window containing the project.
You don't need google's permission i don't think otherwise they wouldn't have made it so easy to do http://www.google.com/search?q=<parameter>
However it probably won't be implemented as someone could use it to search inappropriate stuff or search a virus site.


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#31 2012-12-30 17:08:50

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Re: New blocks in scratch

it would be neat if the url block could be implemented and only be usable for scratch pages, eg the wiki, other projects, etc. then i wouldnt have to haphazardly toss links into the project notes.


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#32 2012-12-30 17:31:16

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Re: New blocks in scratch

These can be used in an abusive manner, I highly dissagree that these should be added.  hmm


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#33 2012-12-30 18:25:31

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Re: New blocks in scratch

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [virusvirus.bad]//Not a real address

Who would want to do that, and why?

To this:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [swearmeanstuff.bad]//Not a real address

and this:

BlackKyurem wrote:

These can be used in an abusive manner, I highly dissagree that these should be added.  hmm

That is the equivalent of creating a sprite, costume, background, etc. that shows something inappropriate/abusive. Does that mean we should not have those? And why would this block in particular be used for hurting people?

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#34 2012-12-30 18:30:20

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Re: New blocks in scratch

lalala3 wrote:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [virusvirus.bad]//Not a real address

Who would want to do that, and why?
Lots of people, called trolls.
To this:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [swearmeanstuff.bad]//Not a real address

and this:

BlackKyurem wrote:

These can be used in an abusive manner, I highly dissagree that these should be added.  hmm

That is the equivalent of creating a sprite, costume, background, etc. that shows something inappropriate/abusive. Does that mean we should not have those? And why would this block in particular be used for hurting people?
Actually, it isn't the equivalent.  Having a person's browser go to a website can cause the person's computer to be infected with a virus, and their password could be phished somehow.  Also, the ST can at least control what's on the website; they can't control the whole internet

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#35 2012-12-30 18:37:14

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Re: New blocks in scratch

lalala3 wrote:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [virusvirus.bad]//Not a real address

Who would want to do that, and why?

To this:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [swearmeanstuff.bad]//Not a real address

and this:

BlackKyurem wrote:

These can be used in an abusive manner, I highly dissagree that these should be added.  hmm

That is the equivalent of creating a sprite, costume, background, etc. that shows something inappropriate/abusive. Does that mean we should not have those? And why would this block in particular be used for hurting people?

I'll give you 5 reasons why this block in particular could be used for hurting people:
1. search [pornography] on [google], search [swear here] on [google], search [computer virus] on [google]
2. forever search something (crash someone's browser)
3. Sometimes, even when you search something that shouldn't bring up bad stuff, bad stuff comes up anyways. Also, some sites may contain malware, inappropriate advertisements, swearing, etc. even if most of the site is okay.
4. Things like LOLCats are usually appropriate, but sometimes they can have things like bad words in them.
5.

jvvg wrote:

Safe search isn't as reliable as you think. I've gotten inappropriate results even with it on. If you enter a keyword that is itself inappropriate, I think you will get at least some inappropriate results.


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#36 2012-12-30 18:38:26

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Re: New blocks in scratch

SJRCS_011 wrote:

lalala3 wrote:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [virusvirus.bad]//Not a real address

Who would want to do that, and why?
Lots of people, called trolls.
Why are they trolls? Answer me that. I know a lot about the internet, you know. It's not like I never heard of trolls. Do you think I subscribe to the consensus that "other people" can just be mean? As in, almost genetically?
To this:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [swearmeanstuff.bad]//Not a real address

and this:

BlackKyurem wrote:

These can be used in an abusive manner, I highly dissagree that these should be added.  hmm

That is the equivalent of creating a sprite, costume, background, etc. that shows something inappropriate/abusive. Does that mean we should not have those? And why would this block in particular be used for hurting people?
Actually, it isn't the equivalent.  Having a person's browser go to a website can cause the person's computer to be infected with a virus, and their password could be phished somehow. No, it can't. Just because both sites are on the internet doesn't mean that one can access passwords from the other. Also, are you sure you understand what phishing is?  Also, the ST can at least control what's on the website; they can't control the whole internet
I meant the offensive content.

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#37 2012-12-30 18:46:23

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Re: New blocks in scratch

lalala3 wrote:

SJRCS_011 wrote:

lalala3 wrote:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [virusvirus.bad]//Not a real address

Who would want to do that, and why?
Lots of people, called trolls.
Why are they trolls? Answer me that. I know a lot about the internet, you know. It's not like I never heard of trolls.
I can't read people's minds, but people are trolls because maybe they think it's funny or they just want to annoy people.
To this:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [swearmeanstuff.bad]//Not a real address

and this:

That is the equivalent of creating a sprite, costume, background, etc. that shows something inappropriate/abusive. Does that mean we should not have those? And why would this block in particular be used for hurting people?
Actually, it isn't the equivalent.  Having a person's browser go to a website can cause the person's computer to be infected with a virus, and their password could be phished somehow.  Also, the ST can at least control what's on the website; they can't control the whole internet
I meant the offensive content.
It's true that you can put offensive stuff in costumes, sprites, etc. but it's much easier to put a large amount of that content on a whole site. Plus you can put a virus on their computer.

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#38 2012-12-30 18:59:45

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Re: New blocks in scratch

lalala3 wrote:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [virusvirus.bad]//Not a real address

Who would want to do that, and why?
Lots of people, called trolls.
Why are they trolls? Answer me that. I know a lot about the internet, you know. It's not like I never heard of trolls.
I can't read people's minds, but people are trolls because maybe they think it's funny or they just want to annoy people.
At least try to understand people, and your efforts will be rewarded with insight. Well then, how is it funny for them? How come they want to annoy people?
To this:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [swearmeanstuff.bad]//Not a real address

and this:

That is the equivalent of creating a sprite, costume, background, etc. that shows something inappropriate/abusive. Does that mean we should not have those? And why would this block in particular be used for hurting people?
Actually, it isn't the equivalent.  Having a person's browser go to a website can cause the person's computer to be infected with a virus, and their password could be phished somehow.  Also, the ST can at least control what's on the website; they can't control the whole internet
I meant the offensive content.
It's true that you can put offensive stuff in costumes, sprites, etc. but it's much easier to put a large amount of that content on a whole site. Plus you can put a virus on their computer.
No, it's not, because then you have to make a site.

Huh. Well, I had to delete a few layers of quotes.


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#39 2012-12-30 19:00:27

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Re: New blocks in scratch

big colorful quote trains... this is getting serious

my opinion on this function is that it would be safe if only scratch-related pages were allowed.

otherwise it is dangerous to be able to link anywhere. even though you could flag the project, viruses/malware/whatever else should definitely be avoided.


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#40 2012-12-30 19:35:21

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Re: New blocks in scratch

You know how when uploading a project you may have something in the project notes bad and Scratch denies uploading? Possibly do the same with blocks. It'll be a little more complicated.

For instance, I put:

forever
search [inappropiate content] on [Google v]
end

Something like this shows up.

Error: Cannot upload for the following reasons:

inappropiate content has been detected
forever block overloads browser

When these problems are fixed, try uploading again.


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#41 2012-12-30 19:49:40

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Re: New blocks in scratch

lalala3 wrote:

lalala3 wrote:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [virusvirus.bad]//Not a real address

Who would want to do that, and why?
Lots of people, called trolls.
Why are they trolls? Answer me that. I know a lot about the internet, you know. It's not like I never heard of trolls.
I can't read people's minds, but people are trolls because maybe they think it's funny or they just want to annoy people.
At least try to understand people, and your efforts will be rewarded with insight. Well then, how is it funny for them? How come they want to annoy people?
To this:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [swearmeanstuff.bad]//Not a real address

and this:

That is the equivalent of creating a sprite, costume, background, etc. that shows something inappropriate/abusive. Does that mean we should not have those? And why would this block in particular be used for hurting people?
Actually, it isn't the equivalent.  Having a person's browser go to a website can cause the person's computer to be infected with a virus, and their password could be phished somehow.  Also, the ST can at least control what's on the website; they can't control the whole internet
I meant the offensive content.
It's true that you can put offensive stuff in costumes, sprites, etc. but it's much easier to put a large amount of that content on a whole site. Plus you can put a virus on their computer.
No, it's not, because then you have to make a site.

Huh. Well, I had to delete a few layers of quotes.

making a site is actually quite easy if you've ever heard of Weebly. And like I said before, I'm not a mindreader. I can't tell why people want to be trolls. If you can do better than me at reading people's minds, then go ahead.  wink

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#42 2012-12-30 19:52:52

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Re: New blocks in scratch

Alright, time to get rid of those quotes  tongue
I like Wes64's idea if this block were to be implemented, but I don't really think this block should be implemented anyway. It wasn't even in the OP, so why are we debating it?  This seems to be turning into a flame war anyway  hmm

Edit: Oh, and for anyone who doesn't know what phishing is, Clicky Clicky

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#43 2012-12-30 19:55:28

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Re: New blocks in scratch

People probably wouldn't use it anyways, so the effort that it would take to create such a block wouldn't really pay off anyways.


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#44 2012-12-30 20:47:44

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Re: New blocks in scratch

@ above posts, what do you think about bullies?  Why are they mean?
@Mokat  Love that signature.


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#45 2012-12-30 20:49:46

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Re: New blocks in scratch

lalala3 wrote:

lalala3 wrote:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [virusvirus.bad]//Not a real address

Who would want to do that, and why?
Lots of people, called trolls.
Why are they trolls? Answer me that. I know a lot about the internet, you know. It's not like I never heard of trolls.
I can't read people's minds, but people are trolls because maybe they think it's funny or they just want to annoy people.
At least try to understand people, and your efforts will be rewarded with insight. Well then, how is it funny for them? How come they want to annoy people?
To this:

MrFlash67 wrote:

go to url [swearmeanstuff.bad]//Not a real address

and this:

That is the equivalent of creating a sprite, costume, background, etc. that shows something inappropriate/abusive. Does that mean we should not have those? And why would this block in particular be used for hurting people?
Actually, it isn't the equivalent.  Having a person's browser go to a website can cause the person's computer to be infected with a virus, and their password could be phished somehow.  Also, the ST can at least control what's on the website; they can't control the whole internet
I meant the offensive content.
It's true that you can put offensive stuff in costumes, sprites, etc. but it's much easier to put a large amount of that content on a whole site. Plus you can put a virus on their computer.
No, it's not, because then you have to make a site.

Huh. Well, I had to delete a few layers of quotes.

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#46 2012-12-30 21:05:44

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Re: New blocks in scratch

Firedrake969 wrote:

@ above posts, what do you think about bullies?  Why are they mean?
@Mokat  Love that signature.

I hypothesize (as in, wild guess) that psychological trauma and the mental stress associated with such has shut down their moral and reasoning complexes, so they, in essence, act like a wild animal taught to speak.


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#47 2012-12-30 21:28:31

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Re: New blocks in scratch

I'd assume it's probably something similar to trolls, or maybe someone was just bored.


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#48 2012-12-30 21:37:03

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Re: New blocks in scratch

Yea, we're getting way off topic here.... getting hypnotizzed by Mokat's 3D-ish sig.... gah.
What do you mean, though, Mokat?


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#49 2012-12-30 21:45:30

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Re: New blocks in scratch

lalala3 asked why people were trolls. like i know


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#50 2012-12-30 21:59:48

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Re: New blocks in scratch

Ah.  (S)He answered his/her own question.  WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE PICTURES!!!!


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