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No...where did you here that? Also, scratch isn't about popularity, and if we do this row, it makes people want to become more popular. There is no prize for being popular, you don't get money, you don't get a limo, it is just online.

Oh, one more thing. Here is probably what the row would look like (you didn't do a very good job):

Last edited by joletole (2012-12-28 16:18:22)

i dont think that is necessary given the amount of personalized rows. projects should be showing up if they are good.

How would you define "unpopular" or "needs more views" though?

NeilWest wrote:

How about 'Projects That Need Support"?

It's more friendly and fits in with Scratch's helpful theme. Though, the latest submissions will be pretty much the same thing. I guess it could be worked out with this algorithm:

v - average views
f - average favourites
l - average love-its

(l x f) / v = n

1 in n chance of a random project being featured.

+100000000000000 Got to agree so much.

jvvg wrote:

NeilWest wrote:

How about 'Projects That Need Support"?

It's more friendly and fits in with Scratch's helpful theme. Though, the latest submissions will be pretty much the same thing. I guess it could be worked out with this algorithm:

v - average views
f - average favourites
l - average love-its

(l x f) / v = n

1 in n chance of a random project being featured.

That term would still be kind of demeaning.
I think something more like "Surprise projects" would be better.

There used to be a Surprise Projects row, but it was removed because inappropriate projects were being front paged.

It's not necessary at all, as Scratch is not a social site where you aim for popularity. It's an educational tool.

NeilWest wrote:

How about 'Projects That Need Support"?

It's more friendly and fits in with Scratch's helpful theme. Though, the latest submissions will be pretty much the same thing. I guess it could be worked out with this algorithm:

v - average views
f - average favourites
l - average love-its

(l x f) / v = n

1 in n chance of a random project being featured.

Just pointing out, if the chance of the project appearing on the front page is 1 in n, the formula would rather be
v / (l x f) = n

It's not a bad idea, but what I'd do is change the surprise projects page to use this algorithm instead of a completely random pick, but I wouldn't add the row to the front page.

If popularity becomes more of an issue, it could be a significant symbol to add it to the front page, to say "the community is also made up of these people who also make great projects".

joletole wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Mokat wrote:

There used to be a Surprise Projects row, but it was removed because inappropriate projects were being front paged.

We don't have the row anymore put we still have the page. It's nicely tucked away where it's still easily accessible bit (via a link through the list of Featured projects page) but hidden enough to prevent a bad surprise project from getting on the front page. 

Yeah, I agree with you. But, whenever I see a bad project on the front page, it is usually flagged in seconds.

True, but other bad things can happen: notably, the thumbnail might not be updated on time and certain the information can stay on the front page until the front page cache clears (which might take a while).

cheddargirl wrote:

joletole wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

We don't have the row anymore put we still have the page. It's nicely tucked away where it's still easily accessible bit (via a link through the list of Featured projects page) but hidden enough to prevent a bad surprise project from getting on the front page. 

Yeah, I agree with you. But, whenever I see a bad project on the front page, it is usually flagged in seconds.

True, but other bad things can happen: notably, the thumbnail might not be updated on time and certain the information can stay on the front page until the front page cache clears (which might take a while).

You do have a point there. Also, the name is kind of demanding. I am sure that a lot of people want to be famous, and if they are deemed unfamous, then they must feel awful.

Also, what if a person doesn't want to be famous. For example, I upload a lot of projects to my test account to test a game before I show it on my real account. Even though there is a slim chance, one of my test projects could be on the front page and then people will friend my test account and I will have nowhere to upload my test projects.

How about an option on your project to stop it from becoming one of the ones on the front page?

In general the "unpopular" bit should definitely be cut off. Its just horrid and mean to label somebody as unpopular. Scratch is a place for making creative projects, being friendly and treating everybody being as an equal. Not a popularity contest.

Last edited by Blazingwave (2013-01-15 02:01:28)

Blazingwave wrote:

In general the "unpopular" bit should definitely be cut off. Its just horrid and mean to label somebody as unpopular.