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#301 2012-11-17 13:08:09

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Looks like v182 introduced a problem with increasing percentages by decimals.  sad

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/lightnin100/2915634

So we may have to revert a little later.


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#302 2012-11-17 14:33:25

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Lightnin wrote:

Up to v182, which contains some fixes for flash related costume paint bugs.

Sweet, the issues I had with stamping on my roads project (for the map previews) are fixed now  smile


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#303 2012-11-18 11:20:40

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

I posted my physics world on but it glitched up my gravity and when you dragged one of the sprites it rotated and some of the rotating scripts didn't even turn on!

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#304 2012-11-18 13:02:48

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Mot17/2914011
In flash player characters are supposed to keep moving and start at the other side of screen when at one side of the screen, but will not!

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#305 2012-11-18 16:51:34

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Whenever I try to play something in the flash player, It says something like if this is taking a long time to load, please install adobe flash player. I have it installed, it came with my web browser (Google Chrome).

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#306 2012-11-18 22:04:22

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

OrcaCat wrote:

Also, in this project, when you click a few times, then full screen it, the whirl is distorted. If you click again, it goes back to normal. Then try small screening it. The whirl is messed up. It looks pretty funny though, lol  tongue

This is an important glitch. Please look at it.


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#307 2012-11-18 22:32:36

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

I am a user of Mac OS X and Google Chrome.

In my games TRON:"http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Gandalf232/2763400", TR2N:"http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Gandalf232/2735248", and TRON Disc Wars:"http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Gandalf232/2766315" when you view the DaftPunk special credit and you use fullscreen the flashes happen very slowly, however when not in fullscreen, the flashes are fast as normal.

To view the DaftPunk special credit, go to any of the games, when it asks you to chose number of lives type "DaftPunk".

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#308 2012-11-19 11:39:15

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

On my NorthOS 2 test, when a hidden sprite is clicked it still registers that that sprite was clicked. This is quite a major problem as you do lots of clicking in NorthOS, and it's easy to click a hidden sprite that changes something on an app once you open it. This can result in the slides changing in the gallery, sometimes a question is asked when it's not meant to etc.

For example, if you click around the upper middle of the screen you might hear a sound that's only meant to play when the settings app is open, you are on the volume tab and you move the slider.

I'm using Safari 5 with Mac OS X 10.6.

It might just be because the project is very large, because I haven't noticed it before.

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#309 2012-11-19 12:12:26

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Some games are lagging on the flash player while not lagging in the Java, I created a separate 
thread to seek solutions but it didn't work, all the requirements (links etc) are here:
http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=109983

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#310 2012-11-19 14:05:34

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

soniku3 wrote:

Ajm573 wrote:

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Ajm573/2915245

This might happen in any project. I stop the project and you can still change the background, go to the start screen and move objects aroung

I'm using Google Chrome 23

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#311 2012-11-19 15:47:42

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Wes64 wrote:

whatever you did in the new update, you totally RUINED a lot of my projects because the rendering scripts in

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Wes64/2821756

among other projects no longer work correctly!

the scripts are chunks of switching costume, changing y position, then stamping. online the switching costume doesn't work, so when it renders, all the stamps are the same thing.

the scripts are found on the "tex" sprite in my project. it worked in versions before 1.77, now it is messed up; so something you put made it messed up.

(it works perfectly when you download it)

I have narrowed it down by testing! there seems to be a problem with the "switch to costume" block. it doesn't seem to work when the sprite is hidden and being stamped and moved around.

in 184 now the fixed glitch is there again. it doesn't work when hidden, and it doesn't work when showing.
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Wes64test/2911587

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#312 2012-11-19 16:12:09

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Wes64 wrote:

Wes64 wrote:

whatever you did in the new update, you totally RUINED a lot of my projects because the rendering scripts in

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Wes64/2821756

among other projects no longer work correctly!

the scripts are chunks of switching costume, changing y position, then stamping. online the switching costume doesn't work, so when it renders, all the stamps are the same thing.

the scripts are found on the "tex" sprite in my project. it worked in versions before 1.77, now it is messed up; so something you put made it messed up.

(it works perfectly when you download it)

I have narrowed it down by testing! there seems to be a problem with the "switch to costume" block. it doesn't seem to work when the sprite is hidden and being stamped and moved around.

in 184 now the fixed glitch is there again. it doesn't work when hidden, and it doesn't work when showing.
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Wes64test/2911587

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#313 2012-11-19 16:34:59

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

There is something completely messed up.
I found the '>' comparison operator not working any longer, e.g. comparing two values which are equal --> result = "true"

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#314 2012-11-19 16:49:44

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

I'm also seeing "click" events automatically fire!

v185 totally breaks all of my projects.

Roll back!

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#315 2012-11-19 17:13:32

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

In the latest version of scratch player, if you scroll down while it is loading, your mouse turns into a pencil. I am using Windows XP SP3 with Firefox (I can't duplicate it in explorer).


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#316 2012-11-19 17:29:05

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

this project does not work  the menu completely disappears after it loads and no music is played either, and this is all because of the latest version of flash player. I can't even test the rest of the game without accessing it via the main menu, where the scrolling background disappears too


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#317 2012-11-19 17:36:47

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

185 is much, much worse! we're just exacerbating it. now it seems like on-click events happen automatically, the glitch i submitted before still isn't fixed either.


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#318 2012-11-19 17:37:51

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Freibauer wrote:

There is something completely messed up.
I found the '>' comparison operator not working any longer, e.g. comparing two values which are equal --> result = "true"

Thanks for reporting! Can you be more specific / point to an example project?
Comparing two values that are equal should result in a true, right?

We have been trying to do some workarounds for comparison problems, and that might have introduced bugs.  sad


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#319 2012-11-19 17:39:31

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Wes64 wrote:

185 is much, much worse! we're just exacerbating it. now it seems like on-click events happen automatically, the glitch i submitted before still isn't fixed either.

Ok: First step: Don't panic!  yikes

We're dealing with some hairy work-arounds for flash related issues, and some precision related comparison stuff. Sometimes things must get worse before they get better!

The on-click events happening automagically is a creepy one - can you link to an example project, or better yet, make the simplest one possible that demos the bug?


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#320 2012-11-19 17:43:08

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Lightnin wrote:

Freibauer wrote:

There is something completely messed up.
I found the '>' comparison operator not working any longer, e.g. comparing two values which are equal --> result = "true"

Thanks for reporting! Can you be more specific / point to an example project?
Comparing two values that are equal should result in a true, right?

We have been trying to do some workarounds for comparison problems, and that might have introduced bugs.  sad

That's only if you were using the ≥ sign  tongue


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#321 2012-11-19 17:43:23

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Lightnin wrote:

We're dealing with some hairy work-arounds for flash related issues, and some precision related comparison stuff. Sometimes things must get worse before they get better!

Just curious, what are these "issues" you're referring to (I don't mean in Scratch project terms, like, from the 2.0/Player/Flash point of view)?


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#322 2012-11-19 17:49:27

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Lightnin wrote:

Freibauer wrote:

There is something completely messed up.
I found the '>' comparison operator not working any longer, e.g. comparing two values which are equal --> result = "true"

Thanks for reporting! Can you be more specific / point to an example project?
Comparing two values that are equal should result in a true, right?

We have been trying to do some workarounds for comparison problems, and that might have introduced bugs.  sad

Comparing two values that are equal should result in a false when compared by '>'.
The actual behavior seems to be like '>='.
For testing, you only need a say-block to display the result of a '>' operator with two equal parameters, i.e. two variables or constants.

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#323 2012-11-19 17:56:45

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

SJRCS_011 wrote:

That's only if you were using the ≥ sign  tongue

Ah yes - I was focusing on the part after e.g.

Freibauer wrote:

e.g. comparing two values which are equal --> result =
"true"

But I gather that two equal values on either side of a > or < are returning true, definitely a bug, probably introduced by the precision workaround.


bobbybee wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

We're dealing with some hairy work-arounds for flash related issues, and some precision related comparison stuff. Sometimes things must get worse before they get better!

Just curious, what are these "issues" you're referring to (I don't mean in Scratch project terms, like, from the 2.0/Player/Flash point of view)?

There's a repaint issue introduced in recent version of the flash player - johnm's been working around it, so I don't have the link to the report.

There's also a precision issue with comparisons. Flash has higher precision, so when people write control flow scripts to check for equivalent values, they sometimes fail because the precision reported by the flash player is higher.

Last edited by Lightnin (2012-11-19 18:06:53)


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#324 2012-11-19 17:57:59

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Ok, time to retreat.  sad 
Back to v 183.

Thanks for sounding the alarms guys! Sorry for all the drama. Most of these changes seemed quite small.


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#325 2012-11-19 18:19:57

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Re: Report glitches in the Flash project player here!

Lightnin wrote:

Wes64 wrote:

185 is much, much worse! we're just exacerbating it. now it seems like on-click events happen automatically, the glitch i submitted before still isn't fixed either.

Ok: First step: Don't panic!  yikes

We're dealing with some hairy work-arounds for flash related issues, and some precision related comparison stuff. Sometimes things must get worse before they get better!

The on-click events happening automagically is a creepy one - can you link to an example project, or better yet, make the simplest one possible that demos the bug?

im not panicking.

the on-click thing and the text bug are both demonstrated in my project Wordsmith.

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Wes64/2821756
i can't make a project to isolate the bug because i have to study for an ap chemistry test tomorrow

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