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#6126 2012-10-27 11:21:00

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Hardmath123 wrote:

Or use XHRs cleverly, I suppose.

That would be slower than including the files once at startup…


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#6127 2012-10-27 13:29:10

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

True.  hmm


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#6128 2012-10-29 08:45:43

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Michael Moc contributed a full Czech translation of Snap!. Yay, Michael!!!

Also, I've changed Snap's translation mechanism according to Stephen's and Nathan's suggestion, to reduce the startup time and keep the memory footprint smaller. Thanks to both of you!


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#6129 2012-11-05 11:45:28

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Whenever I try to run an edited "pigl" block (from the tools sprite), BYOB freezes up.
Here's a picture:

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3937/helpvf.png

Is there anything obviously wrong with this?


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#6130 2012-11-05 11:53:26

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Piglatin script?

The only thing I can guess is because the report is to large.


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#6131 2012-11-05 11:56:43

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

jackrulez wrote:

Whenever I try to run an edited "pigl" block (from the tools sprite), BYOB freezes up.
Here's a picture:

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3937/helpvf.png

Is there anything obviously wrong with this?

Using word instead of #, I believe.

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#6132 2012-11-05 12:33:04

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Gravitation wrote:

jackrulez wrote:

Whenever I try to run an edited "pigl" block (from the tools sprite), BYOB freezes up.
Here's a picture:

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3937/helpvf.png

Is there anything obviously wrong with this?

Using word instead of #, I believe.

Oh, oops. :ᴘ Now it works. Thanks!

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#6133 2012-11-06 14:37:08

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Hi, all.

I wanted to add another vote and possibly offer some time to create an "import from BYOB" workflow for Snap!  It looks like blob8108 and/or dreammod is already working on something like this?  A modded version of BYOB?

My problem is that I have a pretty hefty block library for BYOB 3.1, which causes the UI itself to become almost unusable on most students' laptops.  I could continue to fight the good fight in BYOB, but I figure now might be as good a time as any to move to Snap!  But I'd like to bring my blocks with me.  :-)

At a minimum, I can offer a complex Project file to use as a test case.

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#6134 2012-11-06 14:52:46

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

alloplastic wrote:

I wanted to add another vote and possibly offer some time to create an "import from BYOB" workflow for Snap! It looks like blob8108 and/or dreammod is already working on something like this?

Dreamod is, I think — I'm not sure a Python converter is quite the thing  tongue  But I'm sure you and dreamod could share code, or something...

At a minimum, I can offer a complex Project file to use as a test case.

I'm sure dream will find that very helpful — I know I found even just a project containing all the blocks invaluable for debugging kurt...

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#6135 2012-11-06 14:56:23

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

blob8108 wrote:

alloplastic wrote:

I wanted to add another vote and possibly offer some time to create an "import from BYOB" workflow for Snap! It looks like blob8108 and/or dreammod is already working on something like this?

Dreamod is, I think — I'm not sure a Python converter is quite the thing  tongue  But I'm sure you and dreamod could share code, or something...

I'm working on an "export to snap!" feature in BYOB 3. I would love to collaborate, because I'm feeling a little lazy right now.  smile

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#6136 2012-11-06 16:48:11

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

alloplastic wrote:

an "import from BYOB" workflow for Snap!

nXIII has written, but not completely debugged, a web-based converter.  n, any update on its status?


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#6137 2012-11-06 17:13:01

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

alloplastic wrote:

an "import from BYOB" workflow for Snap!

nXIII has written, but not completely debugged, a web-based converter.  n, any update on its status?

I'm still trying to find time to fix the bug you reported. I should be able to do it tomorrow if not today.


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#6138 2012-11-07 18:08:32

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Great!  I'm glad that there is activity around this feature.  I'd be happy to help in any way I can.  If test-driving one of the converters would be helpful, I could start there, or make my blocks library available.

Now that I'm invested in this block library, I'm personally motivated to see it live on in Snap!

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#6139 2012-11-08 15:08:51

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

My teacher would like to know whether it's possible to "share" (as in, not uploading to the Scratch website but somewhere online) BYOB projects. Thanks in advance!


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#6140 2012-11-08 15:09:43

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

jackrulez wrote:

My teacher would like to know whether it's possible to "share" (as in, not uploading to the Scratch website but somewhere online) BYOB projects. Thanks in advance!

modshare is the answer  smile


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#6141 2012-11-08 17:06:04

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jackrulez wrote:

My teacher would like to know whether it's possible to "share" (as in, not uploading to the Scratch website but somewhere online) BYOB projects. Thanks in advance!

We are eventually going to have an upload site for Snap! with roughly the capabilities of the Scratch site.  Jens says private uploading by January, but I think he's being pessimistic.   smile


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#6142 2012-11-11 16:46:54

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

BUG REPORTING!  big_smile

if you put a block with an error in a c block, you get this (ff 19, win7):
http://i.imgur.com/KXQb2.png

Somehow related, could somebody please explain me how the catch/throw there is working?

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#6143 2012-11-11 18:25:07

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roijac wrote:

Somehow related, could somebody please explain me how the catch/throw there is working?

Catch and throw are custom blocks in the tools library, so you can edit them to read the code.

Basically, catch uses call with continuation to remember what comes after it in the script from which it's called.  Throw uses the remembered continuation to jump out of whatever's going on, back to whatever comes after the catch.

The error in your code is that the first input to throw has to be a continuation -- you drag the orange variable oval from the catch into that slot.

As for the display bug, I'll leave that for Jens.

EDIT:  Did I understand your question correctly?  You've been very quiet.

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#6144 2012-11-12 03:42:46

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Check out Snap! in simplified Chinese: snap.berkeley.edu/snapsource/snap.html#lang:zh_djh thanks to 邓江华

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#6145 2012-11-12 04:03:36

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Yay, more stuff to help me reverse-engineer Chinese.  tongue


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#6146 2012-11-12 17:08:37

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Hardmath123 wrote:

Yay, more stuff to help me reverse-engineer Chinese.  tongue

I can just see you getting into a cab in Beijing and telling the driver "move 10 steps"!

What you really want is a Chinese translation of a programming language with primitives like "Where is the lavatory?"


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#6147 2012-11-12 21:29:05

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lol  I did figure out the Chinese for bathroom once; but promptly forgot due to the sheer squiggliness of the characters.


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#6148 2012-11-13 18:20:30

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Hardmath123 wrote:

the sheer squiggliness of the characters.

They're all that way!  Except ren, which looks like lambda.  smile

EDIT:  Or maybe it's "jen" these days.

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#6149 2012-11-13 23:12:51

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Yeah. "Ren" means "Man", right? (I figured that out by staring at subway signs in Hong Kong). Also, I think exit is double-trident+square.


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#6150 2012-11-14 01:19:23

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Hardmath123 wrote:

(I figured that out by staring at subway signs in Hong Kong).

I learned it a long time ago, in my brief Maoist period, in the context of "Renmin Ribao" -- the People's Daily.  smile


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