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#1 2012-10-07 13:31:56

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The usual guides don't work.

So, after reading this guide, I tried the tips. I advertised in S@T, gave informative descriptions, used proper grammar, added a link, asked for feedback, advertiesd in my sig, (I'm pretty sure I) have lots of friends (friended me, not friended them), posted helpful comments, added tags (my projects have an average of about 6 or 7), reccomended my projects, my projects are in galleries (average of ~1.5 per project), and have a project in SDS (but that's so old no-one looks at it). I haven't spammed, etc. But my projects still have ~10 comments (excluding 50 Bits). Am I doing something wrong?


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#2 2012-10-07 13:52:31

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

no.

It's not guaranteed that your going to get 100 views and 500 comments on your projects.

And Scratch isn't about views and comments. It's about programming. So if that's all you want, I don't think Scratch is a very good place for that.


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#3 2012-10-07 13:55:50

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

funelephant wrote:

no.

It's not guaranteed that your going to get 100 views and 500 comments on your projects.

And Scratch isn't about views and comments. It's about programming. So if that's all you want, I don't think Scratch is a very good place for that.

How many times did I say this.

I KNOW.


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#4 2012-10-07 13:57:08

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

Uh... 0

and if you do know then why are you asking?


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#5 2012-10-07 13:58:51

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

funelephant wrote:

Uh... 0

and if you do know then why are you asking?

{Not in this thread}

This is why english is a bad language.

"I KNOW"--->Scratch<>popularity
~"I KNOW"--->Other people get popularity for things that take the same amount of effort as my projects.

There. I used math.


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#6 2012-10-07 14:02:02

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

funelephant wrote:

First of all, that's not math.

2nd of all, WE CAN'T CONTROL YOUR POPULARITY KAY?

~ means logical not.
<> is a common programming symbol used to represent "Not equals"

And yes you can. And I wasn't even telling you to look at my projects and you start shouting.
Scratch ha-

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#7 2012-10-07 14:08:00

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

funelephant wrote:

Well, you want views so badly, and we can't buy viewers for you or really control that.

if you don't like not being super popular, then just restart or something geez

You act like you can't go on the main site.
And if I restart, I'll be even less popular, not that I wanted it that much.


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#8 2012-10-07 14:09:08

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

I think you are being a little harsh, funelephant.

Anyway, how long has it been up?


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#9 2012-10-07 14:10:15

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

berberberber wrote:

I think you are being a little harsh, funelephant.

Anyway, how long has it been up?

Which one? I'm refering to my projects in general, not any specific one.


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#10 2012-10-07 14:13:23

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

Oh...

Well, you are relatively new.

I joined in 2011 and still aren't that famous...


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#11 2012-10-07 14:13:23

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

funelephant wrote:

Molybdenum wrote:

You act like you can't go on the main site.

Uhh thanks i guess

not that I wanted it that much.

well apparently you do

berberberber wrote:

I think you are being a little harsh, funelephant.

berberberber wrote:

Oh...

Well, you are relatively new.

I joined in 2011 and still aren't that famous...

Well,

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#12 2012-10-07 14:21:21

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

you're not doing anything wrong

your projects are good but they dont appeal to children who dont understand math as well as you


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#13 2012-10-07 14:22:40

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

Wes64 wrote:

you're not doing anything wrong

your projects are good but they dont appeal to children who dont understand math as well as you

What about this, this, and this? No math needed to play them.


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#14 2012-10-07 14:24:57

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

You can advertise, be friendly, post on the forums, but the fact of the matter is, those things do not count as views on your project, so you can't expect to get views as soon as you do them. Generally, if you relentlessly try to be well known, it won't happen. However, if you stick to making cool projects and be friendly, without focusing on getting front paged, your views will soon start to creep up.  smile


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#15 2012-10-07 14:26:21

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

Molybdenum wrote:

Wes64 wrote:

you're not doing anything wrong

your projects are good but they dont appeal to children who dont understand math as well as you

What about this, this, and this? No math needed to play them.

well im saying math-based projects included. the crumble one uses math to generate levels, does it not?

what im trying to say is the community tends to like simple platformer games and animations more than complex games like the ones you make. i happen to enjoy your projects, but unfortunately you're so advanced that people overlook you. thats the problem with the front page these days


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#16 2012-10-07 14:27:35

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

Anyway, the first Crumble does have a lot of views.  tongue


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#17 2012-10-07 14:32:47

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

northmeister wrote:

You can advertise, be friendly, post on the forums, but the fact of the matter is, those things do not count as views on your project, so you can't expect to get views as soon as you do them. Generally, if you relentlessly try to be well known, it won't happen. However, if you stick to making cool projects and be friendly, without focusing on getting front paged, your views will soon start to creep up.  smile

I don't really focus on getting front paged, but we all like it, don't we?

Wes64 wrote:

Molybdenum wrote:

Wes64 wrote:

you're not doing anything wrong

your projects are good but they dont appeal to children who dont understand math as well as you

What about this, this, and this? No math needed to play them.

well im saying math-based projects included. the crumble one uses math to generate levels, does it not?

what im trying to say is the community tends to like simple platformer games and animations more than complex games like the ones you make. i happen to enjoy your projects, but unfortunately you're so advanced that people overlook you. thats the problem with the front page these days

Oh, so now you're blaming it on the front page?
I don't blame you. The front page is messed up these days.

Molybdenum wrote:

StarscreamClone wrote:

Yep, that's how a lot of my projects go.  You just need to get noticed.  Patience, your time will come, and so will mine.  smile   Pay attention to what gets front paged, that may give you a clue as to what people will view.  Also, be helpful, nice, and make some friends!

You really want me to say?
Front page is:
Featured and curated, which can be good.
SDS, but the 8bit theme has been here a long time already.
Loving:
   Simple platformers
   Boring animations (although that "I'm mining iron with iron"/"how ironic!" on was funny)
   Some CC's
Remixing:
   CC's
   A few complex platformer engines
Viewing:
   Games that look complicated but are really not
   Some more CC's
   A few animations

Front page fails.

northmeister wrote:

Anyway, the first Crumble does have a lot of views.  tongue

Good point  tongue

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#18 2012-10-07 14:54:47

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

Molybdenum wrote:

StarscreamClone wrote:

Yep, that's how a lot of my projects go.  You just need to get noticed.  Patience, your time will come, and so will mine.  smile   Pay attention to what gets front paged, that may give you a clue as to what people will view.  Also, be helpful, nice, and make some friends!

You really want me to say?
Front page is:
Featured and curated, which can be good.
SDS, but the 8bit theme has been here a long time already.
Loving:
   Simple platformers
   Boring animations (although that "I'm mining iron with iron"/"how ironic!" on was funny)
   Some CC's
Remixing:
   CC's
   A few complex platformer engines
Viewing:
   Games that look complicated but are really not
   Some more CC's
   A few animations

Front page fails.

Uh... They must be on the front page for a reason...

just because you don't like it, doesn't mean no one else does.


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#19 2012-10-07 14:59:35

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

funelephant wrote:

Molybdenum wrote:

StarscreamClone wrote:

Yep, that's how a lot of my projects go.  You just need to get noticed.  Patience, your time will come, and so will mine.  smile   Pay attention to what gets front paged, that may give you a clue as to what people will view.  Also, be helpful, nice, and make some friends!

You really want me to say?
Front page is:
Featured and curated, which can be good.
SDS, but the 8bit theme has been here a long time already.
Loving:
   Simple platformers
   Boring animations (although that "I'm mining iron with iron"/"how ironic!" on was funny)
   Some CC's
Remixing:
   CC's
   A few complex platformer engines
Viewing:
   Games that look complicated but are really not
   Some more CC's
   A few animations

Front page fails.

Uh... They must be on the front page for a reason...

just because you don't like it, doesn't mean no one else does.

You quoted it wrong. It needs two quotes around the post, like this:

Molybdenum wrote:

Molybdenum wrote:

StarscreamClone wrote:

Yep, that's how a lot of my projects go.  You just need to get noticed.  Patience, your time will come, and so will mine.  smile   Pay attention to what gets front paged, that may give you a clue as to what people will view.  Also, be helpful, nice, and make some friends!

You really want me to say?
Front page is:
Featured and curated, which can be good.
SDS, but the 8bit theme has been here a long time already.
Loving:
   Simple platformers
   Boring animations (although that "I'm mining iron with iron"/"how ironic!" on was funny)
   Some CC's
Remixing:
   CC's
   A few complex platformer engines
Viewing:
   Games that look complicated but are really not
   Some more CC's
   A few animations

Front page fails.

Otherwise you're implying that I said it in this thread.







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#20 2012-10-07 15:14:15

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

Can you please not fuss over the front page and fame? You should be thankful you get views! Some scratchers get none! And if you don't like projects on the front page, then don't look at them.

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#21 2012-10-07 15:49:25

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

ImagineIt wrote:

Can you please not fuss over the front page and fame? You should be thankful you get views! Some scratchers get none! And if you don't like projects on the front page, then don't look at them.

I'm not. And I didn't say I don't like all the FP, as sometimes it actually has good projects.


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#22 2012-10-07 15:58:55

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

Molybdenum wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

Can you please not fuss over the front page and fame? You should be thankful you get views! Some scratchers get none! And if you don't like projects on the front page, then don't look at them.

I'm not. And I didn't say I don't like all the FP, as sometimes it actually has good projects.

If you're not, then what were you doing? And I never said you said you didn't like them all.

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#23 2012-10-07 16:13:54

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

ImagineIt wrote:

Molybdenum wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

Can you please not fuss over the front page and fame? You should be thankful you get views! Some scratchers get none! And if you don't like projects on the front page, then don't look at them.

I'm not. And I didn't say I don't like all the FP, as sometimes it actually has good projects.

If you're not, then what were you doing? And I never said you said you didn't like them all.

I was trying to say (and ask why) that the guides for getting "popular" didn't work, but this quickly turned into a big argument on how scratch isn't all about populrity.


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#24 2012-10-07 16:22:14

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

1.  Guides to get popular almost never work (...) because most Scratchers are only on the main site
2.  Only Featured and sometimes Curated have good projects.
3.  The rest are CCs and the like.
4.  Don't flame me.


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#25 2012-10-07 16:41:28

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Re: The usual guides don't work.

Firedrake969 wrote:

1.  Guides to get popular almost never work (...) because most Scratchers are only on the main site
2.  Only Featured and sometimes Curated have good projects.
3.  The rest are CCs and the like.
4.  Don't flame me.

1. Makes sense.
2. I know.
3. That's what makes the FP mainly bad.
4. I won't, your post is one of the most constructive in this thread.
If you see this, I won't post on this thread for a while now. I'm waiting until all the arguements and "fussing" stops.

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