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#1 2012-07-30 18:16:43

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What is the best file type to use for images?

What's the best file type to use for images when you convert them from .Psd to something Scratch can use? I've had problems with JPGs when the project is uploaded and want to know what the best kind is to use.

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#2 2012-07-30 18:18:20

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

.png


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#3 2012-07-30 18:23:19

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

Doesn't .bmp have less compression and quality loss? The only problem I've had with those is that the colors change slightly.

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#4 2012-07-30 18:33:55

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

Genesix wrote:

Doesn't .bmp have less compression and quality loss? The only problem I've had with those is that the colors change slightly.

I think.


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#5 2012-07-30 18:35:40

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

.bmp and .png are the same except .bmp is larger and .png supports transparency.


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#6 2012-07-30 21:51:25

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

Here's my opinion:
GIF's are huge files compared to the others, so only use them if you want animated pictures.
PNGs are rather good quality for their size, so they are my pick.
JPEGs can have lots of compression, but lose quality in the process.
I personally wouldn't use any other types of images (excluding vector images) on the web just because not all browsers will support them

Last edited by SJRCS_011 (2012-07-30 21:52:42)


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#7 2012-07-30 21:59:41

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

Scratch only sees transparency if it's 1-bit, and it's in GIF format, so GIF get's my vote.


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#8 2012-07-31 00:22:43

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

Personally, I like .bmp because I enjoy the discolored, gritty look your pictures obtain when converted to it.

Really, though, I think .png is the way to go.


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#9 2012-07-31 05:40:13

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

Genesix wrote:

Doesn't .bmp have less compression and quality loss? The only problem I've had with those is that the colors change slightly.

*ahem*
.PNGs are lossless, meaning that no quality is lost. BMPs have NO compression whatsoever so the file size is MASSIVE. BMPs are also restricted to 16bpp -- no transparency support. PNGs, however, do not have this restriction, and support 32bpp images -- transparency and semi-transparency -- therefore making it the best image format available. Let's compare it to GIF:

        GIF        PNG
Animation:    Animation        No animation
Depth:    24bpp        32bpp
File size:    Medium        Small
Support:    100%            IE has some issues

GIF is quite a competitor, but if you're going for quality, go for PNG.  big_smile


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#10 2012-07-31 11:54:44

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

Yeah, GIF loses too much quality and doesn't display all colors correctly so I'll go with PNG

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#11 2012-07-31 14:35:07

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

Genesix wrote:

Yeah, GIF loses too much quality and doesn't display all colors correctly so I'll go with PNG

well, GIFs don't really lose quality, they just have massive filesizes if the image is good quality


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#12 2012-07-31 14:37:13

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

SJRCS_011 wrote:

Genesix wrote:

Yeah, GIF loses too much quality and doesn't display all colors correctly so I'll go with PNG

well, GIFs don't really lose quality, they just have massive filesizes if the image is good quality

No, GIFs only support 256 colours so it does lose quality.


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#13 2012-08-01 14:07:56

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

Also, what color profile should I use? It gets annoying when I import it into Scratch and the colors are completely different.

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#14 2012-08-01 14:39:29

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

veggieman001 wrote:

SJRCS_011 wrote:

Genesix wrote:

Yeah, GIF loses too much quality and doesn't display all colors correctly so I'll go with PNG

well, GIFs don't really lose quality, they just have massive filesizes if the image is good quality

No, GIFs only support 256 colours so it does lose quality.

Ehm ehm! 256 colours would mean 8-bit pictures... that's how many colours pre-millennium computers could support!

GIFs I believe have true colour support in their palette, with only 256 (yes) colours per frame.

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#15 2012-08-01 14:54:45

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

i like svgs

edit:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Animated_PNG_example_bouncing_beach_ball.png
animated png guys...

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#16 2012-08-01 16:14:14

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

roijac wrote:

i like svgs

edit:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … h_ball.png
animated png guys...

It isn't moving for me.


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#17 2012-08-01 16:39:44

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

nama wrote:

roijac wrote:

i like svgs

edit:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … h_ball.png
animated png guys...

It isn't moving for me.

Me neither. Maybe some browsers/OSes don't support it.

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#18 2012-08-01 16:52:12

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

LS97 wrote:

nama wrote:

roijac wrote:

i like svgs

edit:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … h_ball.png
animated png guys...

It isn't moving for me.

Me neither. Maybe some browsers/OSes don't support it.

It's moving now. I was using chrome earlier- now I'm in firefox.
Must be a browser thing,


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#19 2012-08-01 17:00:24

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

nama wrote:

LS97 wrote:

nama wrote:

It isn't moving for me.

Me neither. Maybe some browsers/OSes don't support it.

It's moving now. I was using chrome earlier- now I'm in firefox.
Must be a browser thing,

Yep. I did some research and "GIF intrinsically supports animated images. PNG supports animation only via unofficial extensions."


Furthermore, "Mozilla's unofficial APNG format is a potential solution"
So it makes sense  smile

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#20 2012-08-01 17:23:52

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

LS97 wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

SJRCS_011 wrote:


well, GIFs don't really lose quality, they just have massive filesizes if the image is good quality

No, GIFs only support 256 colours so it does lose quality.

Ehm ehm! 256 colours would mean 8-bit pictures... that's how many colours pre-millennium computers could support!

GIFs I believe have true colour support in their palette, with only 256 (yes) colours per frame.

Yeah, they're 8-bit pictures. 256 colours per frame.


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#21 2012-08-01 20:20:59

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Re: What is the best file type to use for images?

veggieman001 wrote:

LS97 wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:


No, GIFs only support 256 colours so it does lose quality.

Ehm ehm! 256 colours would mean 8-bit pictures... that's how many colours pre-millennium computers could support!

GIFs I believe have true colour support in their palette, with only 256 (yes) colours per frame.

Yeah, they're 8-bit pictures. 256 colours per frame.

regardless, pngs are the best, right veggie?


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