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sonicfan12p wrote:

That's the point of a forum. Asynchronous communication. They will come on again eventually, but you are trying to keep me occupied right now. Wait for them to see this, then see what happens. Stop complicating things.

how am i complicating anything? they were hardly even arguing with you about christianity so you really dont have much reason to defend yourself from them. and what do you mean im trying to keep you occupied? :/

why am I always the misunderstood one... There were things said previously, that I was answering, when 777w started talking to me. I said that Christians are more likely to be affected, not unaffected, by violent materials, I was not defending Christianity, but my Christian Worldview, I said I didn't get affected by stuff as much because of my personality type, not my beliefs. You guys really did zone out during that whole thing didn't you? Anyway, the argument part was more with soupoftomato about my worldview, so you're fine.

sonicfan12p wrote:

777w wrote:

sonicfan12p wrote:

Ask the other two to stop. I'm defending here, not attacking.

theyre not even on, and i dont think they have been for a while
so youre basically defending yourself against somebody whos not here in a topic thats irrelevant anyway 

sonicfan12p wrote:

Sadly that's usually true, about the violence, note I said usually, not always. I'm only concerned for the people who came up with the violence, they have overactive minds.

wait are you saying its usually true that only christians are offended by this? :I

It's more probable that a christian would be offended yes.

no, your religion does not matter in this case, its your personality. christians, like any other group of people, are all very diverse, and different people have different opinions about different things.

wiimaster wrote:

banana500 wrote:

Also, another example of media affecting kids. Back in April 1999, the Columbine High School massacre. One of the two guys who perpetrated the massacre (Eric Harris) was an avid player of DOOM.

I don't know if Doom really caused Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold to go on a mass murder rampage, but it may have. Plus, they were already psychos and had their own inner demons from the beginning.

Doom didn't 'cause' it, but they were immersed into that violent world so much that their psychoticness (that was already there) made them want to recreate those events.
So, in a sense, its the video game and the person are to blame (in that particular scenario anyways). They were mentally ill in the first place, but that was more of a depression and probably a passive-aggressiveness, but no killing involved yet. They probably played violent games to get away from everything (it is reported they have been bullied in the past) and seeing all that violence pushed them to do the crime. They'd need help no matter what, but in this case, I think it was the media that turned 'that depressed kid' into a killer. Just my opinion.

Yeah, that's true. Actually, in one of Harris's journals, he said the massacre was going to be "like [removed] Doom" (in those exact words). Also, they weren't mentally ill--also, they weren't bullied that much either. They weren't the most popular kids, but they weren't ridiculed all the time. It's just that both Harris and Klebold had their own inner demons, and their own hatred and opinions against the world and against certain people, which took them over and led to the massacre, and eventually their deaths.

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banana500 wrote:

Also, another example of media affecting kids. Back in April 1999, the Columbine High School massacre. One of the two guys who perpetrated the massacre (Eric Harris) was an avid player of DOOM.

I don't know if Doom really caused Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold to go on a mass murder rampage, but it may have. Plus, they were already psychos and had their own inner demons from the beginning.

April 1999? That's 2 years before I was born 

That's horrible and the reason I don't play violent video games.

sonicfan12p wrote:

Anyway, the argument part was more with soupoftomato about my worldview, so you're fine.

I know we aren't supposed to discuss religion, and I hope this will be the last word on the subject, but you implying I might not be some sort of "real Christian" offended me. :L

Stuff like this whole argument is making me lose faith in scratch ;_;
Anyways I agree to some extent

i would argue that mario is worse than most any war game because its basically one plumber taking down an army of millions. thats genocide right there

I say we fix pop music first! =D

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soupoftomato wrote:

I say we fix pop music first! 

Good plan! 

CheeseMunchy wrote:

This is a kids site, not sure we should be discussing this stuff. :p

This is true.

Animeboy975 wrote:

VERY RARELY, this can be a good thing [media affecting kids] Did anyone hear about that story a few months ago about that Norwegian kid who saved his little sister's life by using a move from World of Warcraft?

no, but i heard of a guy who saved a life using actual techniques described at the beginning of a war game

Animeboy975 wrote:

banana500 wrote:

Also, another example of media affecting kids. Back in April 1999, the Columbine High School massacre. One of the two guys who perpetrated the massacre (Eric Harris) was an avid player of DOOM.

I don't know if Doom really caused Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold to go on a mass murder rampage, but it may have. Plus, they were already psychos and had their own inner demons from the beginning.

April 1999? That's 2 years before I was born 

That's horrible and the reason I don't play violent video games.

So you don't play violent video games because some dumb kids' parents used them to hide that they are terrible parents?

If you play video games at all, you need to play Doom. Doom's revolutionary, the father of the first-person shooter. It's a true classic and changed the face of the video game industry (although I personally prefer another Romero and Carmak series, Quake). Don't exclude an essential game from your experience just because it's violent. Would you do that for movies? Music? Books too? I'm currently reading The Outsiders, which has tons of mentions of violence. But it's a great book that makes an excellent read. And that's what matters. Same with anything else.