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#1 2012-07-29 14:44:05

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[survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

So, what do people want to know about Scratch 2.0 that was not already published in an earlier blog post, or on the Scratch 2.0 FAQ? One or two popular requests could be in the next blog post! So, start voting today!
This post will be collaboratively written by 2.0 testers and the Scratch Team.

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#2 2012-07-29 14:48:05

joletole
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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

Is there going to be both a Scratch 2.0 download version, and online? Or just online? (P.S, could I also help write the blog post. I doubt you guys will pick me, it just seems like an interesting opportunity to do.)

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#3 2012-07-29 14:49:17

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

What categories will be there?

And what menus will be there?


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#4 2012-07-29 14:50:03

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

joletole wrote:

Is there going to be both a Scratch 2.0 download version, and online? Or just online?

That's already in the FAQ. Yes, there will be a downloadable version.

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#5 2012-07-29 14:50:30

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

joletole wrote:

Is there going to be both a Scratch 2.0 download version, and online? Or just online?

I think they already cleared that there was going to be a 2.0 download...


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#6 2012-07-29 15:06:38

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

this got stickied!


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#7 2012-07-29 15:13:47

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

ftf841 wrote:

this got stickied!

Ah yes, occasionally the mods will sticky a topic, you know...  tongue

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#8 2012-07-29 16:00:12

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

What's the deal on secure cloud variables? Planned?


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#9 2012-07-29 16:03:07

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

Will there be a username reporter?


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#10 2012-07-29 16:07:03

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

Wes64 wrote:

Will there be a username reporter?

It is planned, that's what Lightnin said.


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#11 2012-07-29 16:09:15

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

stevetheipad wrote:

Wes64 wrote:

Will there be a username reporter?

It is planned, that's what Lightnin said.

Apparently there probably won't be now. sdg1 said it was because someone could do

if <(username)=[someone]>
be horrible
else
be nice
end
Will we be forced to work with vector graphics or will we have an option not to?

Last edited by RedRocker227 (2012-07-29 16:11:56)


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#12 2012-07-29 16:11:32

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

RedRocker227 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

Wes64 wrote:

Will there be a username reporter?

It is planned, that's what Lightnin said.

Apparently it's probably not now. sdg1 said it was because someone could do

if <(username)=[someone]>
be horrible
else
be nice
end

Yes, but I could also post a project right now with some bad stuff that would be seem by quite a few people.

My point is, there will be flaws and "hacks" for everything, so you can't stop it, you just have to minimize it and create a system for quickly checking and hiding these things.


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#13 2012-07-29 16:11:41

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

RedRocker227 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

Wes64 wrote:

Will there be a username reporter?

It is planned, that's what Lightnin said.

Apparently there probably won't be now. sdg1 said it was because someone could do

if <(username)=[someone]>
be horrible
else
be nice
end
(How does this differ from the other sticky about 2.0?)

Yeah but that makes the project inappropriate, and it should be flagged.


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#14 2012-07-29 16:18:37

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

will it run on android? - dragging just moves the page at the moment?


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#15 2012-07-29 17:04:35

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

TRocket wrote:

will it run on android? - dragging just moves the page at the moment?

That's always a problem with mobile/touch devices. Won't fullscreen in zoomed out mode work though?

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#16 2012-07-29 23:15:26

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

RedRocker227 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

Wes64 wrote:

Will there be a username reporter?

It is planned, that's what Lightnin said.

Apparently there probably won't be now. sdg1 said it was because someone could do

if <(username)=[someone]>
be horrible
else
be nice
end

sdg1 gave an update on Scratch Suggestions:

sdg1 wrote:

We are implementing a user-id block instead, which would give you a unique number for a logged in user. This number depends on the user and the project, so users will have different numbers for different projects, but you can be sure that a user revisiting a project will always have the same user-id. Non logged in users will always get the value 0.

My Questions:
Will cloud data refresh rates get better? And what about cloud data censoring/locking?

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#17 2012-07-30 10:03:07

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

There won't be a username sensor, they are making a user id block. When a user runs a project, they get an ID. If they view that project again, they get the same ID. A user's ID for a project is different for every project they view. A guest will get '0'.


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#18 2012-07-30 10:36:08

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

What about cloud-variable security features?  (i.e., "locked" cloud variables)

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#19 2012-07-30 15:36:58

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

The issue about the ID, is that, what if there was a high score list?

Someone could enter a fake username.

Last edited by funelephant (2012-07-30 15:37:17)


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#20 2012-07-30 18:31:25

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

I have a couple of questions for you:

1) How is the performance of the new flash player compared to the flash player you have in beta on the main site?  (I ask because during the open alpha you had, I noticed that the alpha player was significantly slower than the beta player.)

2) Have you addressed all of the concerns posted during the open alpha period?

3) What kinds of new string manipulation blocks can we expect?

4) I understand that we will have the ability to define functions, do these functions have the ability to return values?

Can the function blocks be called recursively?

Do they have local variables (local to the function instance)?

5) Will we have the ability to export our project in a flash format (swf)?

6) Will we have blocks to control turbo mode?  Or, at least have a way to mark a project as only running in turbo mode (or non-turbo mode) if required?

7) How is the performance of the block editor?  (Please tell me that it is faster than 1.4.  smile  )

8) Will we ever get a "sort list" block so that we can quickly put a list in alpha/numerical order?

9) Have you implemented any of the top voted suggestions on the suggestion site?

10) When can we see it again?


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#21 2012-07-30 18:40:03

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

funelephant wrote:

The issue about the ID, is that, what if there was a high score list?

Someone could enter a fake username.

No, you'd use a username reporter.


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#22 2012-07-31 10:22:49

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

Will we have to download a decompiler to mod it?

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#23 2012-07-31 11:15:36

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

Greenatic wrote:

Will we have to download a decompiler to mod it?

I'm sure they will also give us the .fla like they gave us the .image.

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#24 2012-07-31 18:31:44

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

Will there be a HTML5 player?


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#25 2012-07-31 18:35:27

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Re: [survey] What do you guys want to know about 2.0?

jji7skyline wrote:

Will there be a HTML5 player?

That's already been confirmed by the ST.  They'll work on that after finishing 2.0 I believe.


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