Scratch

not nearly as advanced as scratch. i actually learned alice in a computer class, and i thought it was cool. Then i saw scratch... goodbye alice.

ftf841 wrote:

SciTecCf wrote:

Alice is like Scratch, but it's in 3D. Discuss it here.

I would like to get it, but it's like 350MB. That'll take about 6 hours to download.

it tok me only 15 minites to download 

Yeah, Americans have internet for free and it reaches speeds of up to 50 megabytes per second, but usually it's about 2 megabyte per second. Here in SA we pay R200 - R2000 ($25 - $250) per month for internet that reaches speeds of up to 5 megabytes per second, but is usually 30 kilobytes per second, which is 0.03 megabytes per second. That's what I have, 20KBPS. Not that I'm complaining, I mean, internet is internet.

The only reason I'm complaining about it is that I can't download most things, like Alice, because they are too big.

SeptimusHeap wrote:

SciTecCf wrote:

ftf841 wrote:

it tok me only 15 minites to download 

Yeah, Americans have internet for free and it reaches speeds of up to 50 megabytes per second, but usually it's about 2 megabyte per second. Here in SA we pay R200 - R2000 ($25 - $250) per month for internet that reaches speeds of up to 5 megabytes per second, but is usually 30 kilobytes per second, which is 0.03 megabytes per second. That's what I have, 20KBPS. Not that I'm complaining, I mean, internet is internet.

The only reason I'm complaining about it is that I can't download most things, like Alice, because they are too big.

"Americans have internet for free"

*facepalm*

We pay too...

Then I guess we have been lied to. 

I'll ask my dad if I can download Alice.

ftf841 wrote:

SciTecCf wrote:

SeptimusHeap wrote:

"Americans have internet for free"

*facepalm*

We pay too...

Then I guess we have been lied to. 

I'll ask my dad if I can download Alice.

yes we have to pay alice is also sort of advanced also it took me a little wile to get used to the GUI and blocks.

It's odd that the block design makes it harder.

SciTecCf wrote:

ROSMan wrote:

not nearly as advanced as scratch. i actually learned alice in a computer class, and i thought it was cool. Then i saw scratch... goodbye alice.

Listen. You can't really compare them since Alice is 3D and is aimed at educating people on Java's syntax in a visual way, and Scratch is just to teach logic skills. IMO, Alice is more advanced since it is in 3D, but that's just my opinion.

Alice is not more advanced, just let me tell you that. Alice goes as far as not being able to upload your own 3D sprites. You have to make a selection from the library they have. I mean, If you mean because it's in 3D it's more advanced because of the code used to MAKE Alice, then yeah. But my no means can you make more complex stuff than in scratch.

Oh, now I get it. I guess I was judging it by the cover since I don't have it. Now it does sound suckish.    Darn. I had so many great 3D game ideas. 

Actaully, the Squeak Smalltalk that Scratch is developed on, or I nickname "MIT Sqeak" is modified, and actaully REMOVED the Alice functions, so basically Alice is originally uncluded in Squeak.

It looks cool, but you can't make games, can you?

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mythbusteranimator wrote:

It looks cool, but you can't make games, can you?

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You can create games with it.

I used to use it, before I found Scratch.
The layout can be confusing at first.

I just got a stupendous idea: What if we contact the Alice team and ask a few questions, and then make a scratch-like version. It would be the first 3D scratch mod ever! You guys should try it.

SciTecCf wrote:

PullJosh wrote:

I just got a stupendous idea: What if we contact the Alice team and ask a few questions, and then make a scratch-like version. It would be the first 3D scratch mod ever! You guys should try it.

Scratch3D! That is a great idea!

Too bad I can't code.

You just see my 3d renderer and you won't even need a mod.

(In development, but can draw the basic 3d stuff)

SciTecCf wrote:

Maybe MIT could make something that is really advanced, like C# or C++ but it uses the Scratch Block interface. Like scratch is now, but with like, 1000 blocks to do ALL of the things that C++ can do, and export to exe and swf, stuff like that. That would be AWESOME.

Just learn a language that does what you need it to do.
This definitely wouldn't work because Flash and Squeak aren't low level. How can you make a low level programming language without making it in a low level programming language?