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#1 2009-05-04 22:36:03

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Tabs in Scratch

Most major internet browsers support "tabs"--little thingies that appear in the tab bar. From here you can click to navigate to other websites, while the previous one is still available to you in another tab. So why can't this feature be in Scratch? Say I have to projects running at one time. I, personally, hate using multiple windows for one program because (a) it's inconvenient (I don't like switching between windows), (b) it clogs up space on my task bar, and (c) some other random reasons which I don't feel like mentioning. This feature would be quite useful. Can this aspect be put in 1.5?

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The main purpose of this feature would be for copying and pasting between two projects, as Paddle2See suggested.

EDIT:

I don't mean opening tabs in your web browser. I mean the actual Scratch application. Sorry if that's ambiguous. I can see how you'd get mixed up.

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Here's a GIMPed up screenshot (I'm not too good with it  tongue  ), for your convenience:

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#2 2009-05-05 00:29:40

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

SCRATCH uses an awful lot of memory space already, and even more when trying to run  one project on my laptop. But if such an idea can be implemented without overloading the computer, I would love to see a feature like this if it is possible.


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#3 2009-05-05 05:50:17

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

I already use Tabs in my browser (IE7) to run different projects.  I have a shortcut on my desktop that brings up the Scratch homepage...if I fire it off twice I get two tabs, each running Scratch.  Maybe it was a setting somewhere in IE?


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#4 2009-05-05 16:59:41

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

Paddle2See wrote:

I already use Tabs in my browser (IE7) to run different projects.  I have a shortcut on my desktop that brings up the Scratch homepage...if I fire it off twice I get two tabs, each running Scratch.  Maybe it was a setting somewhere in IE?

I think he means offline.

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#5 2009-05-05 22:04:19

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

Paddle2See wrote:

I already use Tabs in my browser (IE7) to run different projects.  I have a shortcut on my desktop that brings up the Scratch homepage...if I fire it off twice I get two tabs, each running Scratch.  Maybe it was a setting somewhere in IE?

What I mean is, tabs in the actual Scratch application, not online. You know, so I can work on two projects at the same time without having to switch windows.


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#6 2009-05-05 22:05:26

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

cheddargirl wrote:

SCRATCH uses an awful lot of memory space already, and even more when trying to run  one project on my laptop. But if such an idea can be implemented without overloading the computer, I would love to see a feature like this if it is possible.

Oh, and Cheddargirl, Scratch is about 50 megabytes. What's a few more?


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#7 2009-05-05 22:15:12

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

sounds cool, i'd like to see this implemented


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#8 2009-05-05 22:23:32

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

me too!


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#9 2009-05-06 05:45:16

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

cocoanut wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

I already use Tabs in my browser (IE7) to run different projects.  I have a shortcut on my desktop that brings up the Scratch homepage...if I fire it off twice I get two tabs, each running Scratch.  Maybe it was a setting somewhere in IE?

What I mean is, tabs in the actual Scratch application, not online. You know, so I can work on two projects at the same time without having to switch windows.

Oh...I see.  Yeah, that would be handy.  Particularly if you could do cut and paste of scripts between the two tabs.


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#10 2009-05-06 06:15:00

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

cocoanut wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

SCRATCH uses an awful lot of memory space already, and even more when trying to run  one project on my laptop. But if such an idea can be implemented without overloading the computer, I would love to see a feature like this if it is possible.

Oh, and Cheddargirl, Scratch is about 50 megabytes. What's a few more?

On my laptop, the SCRATCH folder takes up about 145MB (about 120MB from the original download, the rest from the our other projects I'm working on), and when running, it requires 16 MB more memory (this is not when running a big project). It sounds like nothing, but considering the state which my laptop is in, running SCRATCH slows down my computer fairly significantly.


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#11 2009-05-06 08:25:19

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

well scratch always crashes on my comp once the file gets too big like maybe 10 sprites..


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#12 2009-05-06 20:42:13

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

cheddargirl wrote:

cocoanut wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

SCRATCH uses an awful lot of memory space already, and even more when trying to run  one project on my laptop. But if such an idea can be implemented without overloading the computer, I would love to see a feature like this if it is possible.

Oh, and Cheddargirl, Scratch is about 50 megabytes. What's a few more?

On my laptop, the SCRATCH folder takes up about 145MB (about 120MB from the original download, the rest from the our other projects I'm working on), and when running, it requires 16 MB more memory (this is not when running a big project). It sounds like nothing, but considering the state which my laptop is in, running SCRATCH slows down my computer fairly significantly.

Really? That's odd... I have a clean install of Scratch (I reinstalled Windows XP, so I would obviously have to reinstall Scratch), and when I look at the "Add or Remove Programs" thing, it said it was taking up 49.62 MB. I wonder...


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#13 2009-05-06 21:01:36

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

cocoanut wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

cocoanut wrote:


Oh, and Cheddargirl, Scratch is about 50 megabytes. What's a few more?

On my laptop, the SCRATCH folder takes up about 145MB (about 120MB from the original download, the rest from the our other projects I'm working on), and when running, it requires 16 MB more memory (this is not when running a big project). It sounds like nothing, but considering the state which my laptop is in, running SCRATCH slows down my computer fairly significantly.

Really? That's odd... I have a clean install of Scratch (I reinstalled Windows XP, so I would obviously have to reinstall Scratch), and when I look at the "Add or Remove Programs" thing, it said it was taking up 49.62 MB. I wonder...

But Memory and Space have almost nothing to do with each other. Memory is what stores the tempory stuff(icons, sounds) so it doesn't take as long to load. Space is how much space is on the hard drive.

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#14 2009-05-07 00:08:46

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

BWOG wrote:

cocoanut wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:


On my laptop, the SCRATCH folder takes up about 145MB (about 120MB from the original download, the rest from the our other projects I'm working on), and when running, it requires 16 MB more memory (this is not when running a big project). It sounds like nothing, but considering the state which my laptop is in, running SCRATCH slows down my computer fairly significantly.

Really? That's odd... I have a clean install of Scratch (I reinstalled Windows XP, so I would obviously have to reinstall Scratch), and when I look at the "Add or Remove Programs" thing, it said it was taking up 49.62 MB. I wonder...

But Memory and Space have almost nothing to do with each other. Memory is what stores the tempory stuff(icons, sounds) so it doesn't take as long to load. Space is how much space is on the hard drive.

True, memory and hard drive space have nothing to do with each other, but both can still affect how fast a computer, or, in this case, my laptop, runs. Laptops tend to run slower and require more time to boot up when more space on the hard drive is occupied (even more slowly if there's a ton of defragmented files). Add the multiple processes that run in the background plus the SCRATCH application and the more slower the computer runs. 

If we can have the tabs option instead of having multiple SCRATCH applications run multiple times, I'm all for it.


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#15 2009-05-07 09:49:23

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

yeh cutting and pasting scripts between two projects wud be awesome!


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#16 2009-05-07 10:33:13

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

Dibbo222 wrote:

yeh cutting and pasting scripts between two projects wud be awesome!

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#17 2009-06-09 22:37:35

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

Darn, is this thread dead already? Anyone else want to post for any particular reason?


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#18 2009-06-09 23:17:52

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

Nah, I think it should stay dead.  smile

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#19 2009-08-14 15:56:04

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

Magnie wrote:

Nah, I think it should stay dead.  smile

Stay dead? I never give up!

Anyone? Anyone else want to post their opinions? Please? With sugar on top?

Maybe we can put it in 1.5, as it sadly wasn't implemented in 1.4.

Let's work to keep this thread alive! Please! Post!


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#20 2009-08-14 16:00:33

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

Might be neat...

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#21 2009-10-08 00:02:53

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

Please?


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#22 2009-10-08 09:50:11

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

cocoanut wrote:

Please?

Nah, I don't think so. It uses WAY too much RAM at this point, I can only imagine what would happen to people's computers if there were multiple tabs open at once! My "minesweeper" project uses ~150,000 K of memory, which is over twice as much as Firefox is using, and it's the most memory-using application I have open - And that's a small project! Frankly, I think it would just slow things down too much.

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#23 2009-10-09 00:04:19

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

You can see the projects on a new tab, just right click and select Open In new Tab.  smile

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#24 2009-10-10 00:17:17

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

frih wrote:

You can see the projects on a new tab, just right click and select Open In new Tab.  smile

Frih, what I mean is in the actual APPLICATION (scratch.exe, scratch.app, whatever you call it) have tabs. Like, so you can MAKE two projects at the same time. I know, it's kind of unclear. I can see how you'd mess that up.  smile


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#25 2009-10-10 00:31:29

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Re: Tabs in Scratch

What if you can choose to open tabs or not. So if you think your computer and/or laptop can handle it, you can choose to turn it on. If not, turn it off.


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