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#1 2012-03-14 21:13:22

MaxFlyboy
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Private Messaging Scratch Team

I've seen a lot of times where in forums someone says that they're going to email the scratch team about an issue. I think that instead of email there should be private messaging the scratch team about a personal issue with scratch, something that can't be discussed in the community, and so on.
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RedRocker227
turkey3
scimonster
nickbrickmaster

wow, a lot of people against. For all of you who say email is just fine, then why not a private messaging button to the scratch team?

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#2 2012-03-14 21:46:06

nickbrickmaster
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

You should try this thing called E-mail (Eehmaihl).


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#3 2012-03-14 21:59:13

MaxFlyboy
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

Yes, but it would be more convenient for people who don't have email, or never use email, or don't want to share email with anyone other than people who they know personally. Also it would be better to be able to press a button and put the problem then having to log off, log in to you're email, copy and paste scratch team's email, and then write whatever you're contacting the scratch team for.


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#4 2012-03-15 00:02:01

nickbrickmaster
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

True, but you need an email to sign up for scratch.


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#5 2012-03-15 00:19:29

stevetheipad
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Registered: 2011-08-06
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

Why is messaging better than emailing?

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#6 2012-03-15 10:06:49

Magnie
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

Well, it is a good idea and can help the community a lot. But there are people who are likely to spam all the ST members because they don't need an email.

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#7 2012-03-15 10:06:50

scimonster
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Registered: 2010-06-13
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

I think emailing is just fine. :S

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#8 2012-03-15 11:46:11

RedRocker227
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Registered: 2011-10-26
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

I don't support.


Why

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#9 2012-03-15 12:33:14

slayerrobe7
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Registered: 2011-06-24
Posts: 500+

Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

email is perfect as is i email the scratch team quite a bit if i could pm them by golly they would probly bann me


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#10 2012-03-15 13:14:59

wolvesstar97
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Registered: 2011-08-31
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

nickbrickmaster wrote:

True, but you need an email to sign up for scratch.

Parents email also. Plus, if you're under a certain age, your email is optional. Just your parents email is needed and some parents dont want their kids using their email.


I support. This is a good idea.


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#11 2012-03-15 13:45:25

nickbrickmaster
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

Maybe you should update your post to show who are against. I am, sci is, redrocker is, and magnie is.


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#12 2012-03-15 19:28:31

turkey3
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

I dont support because with the reporting and flagging that's sort of the same thing...

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#13 2012-03-15 19:32:18

Luke121
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

turkey3 wrote:

I dont support because with the reporting and flagging that's sort of the same thing...

Wrong logic. Right idea.

Count me as against, as email is fine with me.


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#14 2012-03-15 20:25:18

MaxFlyboy
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

Magnie wrote:

Well, it is a good idea and can help the community a lot. But there are people who are likely to spam all the ST members because they don't need an email.

What's the difference between spamming in email and spamming in messaging?


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#15 2012-03-15 20:28:29

cheddargirl
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Registered: 2008-09-15
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

Well, the Scratch Team is thinking about something like that with the coming of Scratch 2.0.  smile

One of the big issues with the e-mail system right now regarding bans is that e-mails can end up in the spambox, or the e-mail address given is invalid/doesn't accept messages such that the Scratch Team's replies do not get delivered. Additionally, e-mails are easily spoofed. There is actually some kind of push to have some kind of in-site messaging for bans to prevent those issues from happening with ban appeals.

I can't really say much about the other issues outside of bans, though. It's something that's still in the works, so there's still much talking to do before the push to Scratch 2.0 is finalized.


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#16 2012-03-16 07:54:43

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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

scimonster wrote:

I think emailing is just fine. :S

Me too.
I even have a separate email just for scratch and related stuff


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#17 2012-03-16 08:50:49

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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

Using Email and the "Contact Us" button is just fine for me... Although in the rare occasion that I would need to use this, it would be helpful. I support 50%.


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#18 2012-03-16 10:12:24

veggieman001
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

The main reason why I'd say why not is because it'd take work for the ST.


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#19 2012-03-16 10:49:14

Magnie
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

MaxFlyboy wrote:

Magnie wrote:

Well, it is a good idea and can help the community a lot. But there are people who are likely to spam all the ST members because they don't need an email.

What's the difference between spamming in email and spamming in messaging?

It's harder to get an email account than a Scratch account. So people can make multiple Scratch accounts and send random spam through PM. It also increases the likely-hood of Scratchers asking questions that could/should be asked in the forums. I bet there will be a slight increase of accounts here on the site if PM is added.

Also, can you take me off the list, please. I never said I was for or against.  smile

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#20 2012-03-16 19:29:56

MaxFlyboy
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

Magnie wrote:

MaxFlyboy wrote:

Magnie wrote:

Well, it is a good idea and can help the community a lot. But there are people who are likely to spam all the ST members because they don't need an email.

What's the difference between spamming in email and spamming in messaging?

It's harder to get an email account than a Scratch account. So people can make multiple Scratch accounts and send random spam through PM. It also increases the likely-hood of Scratchers asking questions that could/should be asked in the forums. I bet there will be a slight increase of accounts here on the site if PM is added.

Also, can you take me off the list, please. I never said I was for or against.  smile

To solve the spam: they could make a time rule like the 60 second rule but a much greater time (like an hour or so). They could also make it that New Scratcher's (unless banned) can't use it.


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#21 2012-03-16 22:38:43

cheddargirl
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

Magnie wrote:

MaxFlyboy wrote:

Magnie wrote:

Well, it is a good idea and can help the community a lot. But there are people who are likely to spam all the ST members because they don't need an email.

What's the difference between spamming in email and spamming in messaging?

It's harder to get an email account than a Scratch account. So people can make multiple Scratch accounts and send random spam through PM. It also increases the likely-hood of Scratchers asking questions that could/should be asked in the forums. I bet there will be a slight increase of accounts here on the site if PM is added.

Actually, whenever the ST gets a message that could be easily asked in the forums, the ST usually send a reply asking them to go to the forums, I don't think that behavior will change regardless whether or not e-mail or a PM system is used. 

The problem with e-mails is that it can be faked or spoofed (or even messed up because of typos), the ST often get messages from invalid e-mails, and a lot of them get pretty angry and nasty. Not to mention that the Scratch Team's e-mail could be spoofed to look like the ST was doing something bad - same can also be said of people spoofing other people's e-mails to send angry messages to the Scratch Team.

One thing I really do like about having some kind of PM system for some issues where ST involvement is needed is that it makes it easier to track down accounts - with a PM system, the Scratch Team would know exactly who sent the message, thus putting pressure on users to become more accountable for what they send to the Scratch Team. Additionally, instead of being worried about sending an invalid e-mail address or keeping on eye on your inbox and spambox for a reply, you are pretty much guaranteed that messages are sent through - you just simply log in to check for a reply. And no more spoofing stunts. Perhaps that means less spam and less angry anonymous messages coming into the Scratch Team's inbox.  smile

Of course, given that there's a push for a PM system for ban appeals like I mentioned before, maybe this is less of a suggestion and more of an idea undergoing review and revision.  tongue


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#22 2012-03-16 22:53:44

imnotbob
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Re: Private Messaging Scratch Team

Pretty sure I suggested this before. So, obviously, I support.


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