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#26 2012-01-31 15:48:02

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Re: Programming Languages

RedRocker227 wrote:

poopo wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

My favourite is Scratch. All others are too complicated for me :c

Have you ever bought a book and tried to learn from it?

Not a book, no, but I've looked up a kajillion tutorials on YouTube for Stencyl, but I'm getting nowhere.

Yeah, Stencyl is the opposite of intuitive, though admittedly all I did with it was poke around for an hour without bothering to read even the given tutorial.


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#27 2012-01-31 17:55:58

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Re: Programming Languages

RedRocker227 wrote:

poopo wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

My favourite is Scratch. All others are too complicated for me :c

Have you ever bought a book and tried to learn from it?

Not a book, no, but I've looked up a kajillion tutorials on YouTube for Stencyl, but I'm getting nowhere.

You have to get a book. They are the only way to learn a programming language.


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#28 2012-01-31 18:42:49

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Re: Programming Languages

JTxt wrote:

Magmawulf wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripting_language
Search for Javascript there  wink

Yes but scripting languages are programming languages too.  They're just usualy interpreted live instead of compiled into bytecode then ran directly on hardware.

That does not make them less useful.  It makes them slower usually, but more flexible for some uses.

And the line between scripting and compiled languages can be very fuzzy or non existent:
- PHP can now be compiled into bytecode and ran directly on hardware now, (like C etc...)  Facebook made HipHop to do this to make their web servers much faster.
- V8, Goggle's Javascript interpreter(in Chrome and node.js) compiles parts of Javascript programs, and can be as fast as compiled languages for some tasks.

And Scratch is a scripting language too...

Javascript is used for much more than just client-side websites now. 
node.js runs javascript as a server, (sort of like ruby, python, or php...)
It can also be used to make desktop apps like this.   ...and much more.

Yeah!

poopo wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

poopo wrote:


Have you ever bought a book and tried to learn from it?

Not a book, no, but I've looked up a kajillion tutorials on YouTube for Stencyl, but I'm getting nowhere.

You have to get a book. They are the only way to learn a programming language.

Nope. I've figured out how to use Processing from just looking around in the Reference on their website. I actually find books more confusing to use to learn how to do programming, and everyone learns differently.  smile


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#29 2012-01-31 18:52:14

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Re: Programming Languages

i know java and flash
good languages to learn


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#30 2012-01-31 19:56:11

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Re: Programming Languages

C based languages.


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#31 2012-01-31 20:16:40

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Re: Programming Languages

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Nope. I've figured out how to use Processing from just looking around in the Reference on their website.

Plus a Zillion! That thing is so useful.


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#32 2012-01-31 20:59:54

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Re: Programming Languages

RedRocker227 wrote:

poopo wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

My favourite is Scratch. All others are too complicated for me :c

Have you ever bought a book and tried to learn from it?

Not a book, no, but I've looked up a kajillion tutorials on YouTube for Stencyl, but I'm getting nowhere.

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#33 2012-01-31 21:03:09

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Re: Programming Languages

HTML even though it's a markup language. Oooh, and CSS, and php.. and.. javascipt.


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#34 2012-01-31 22:23:34

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+1 for PHP. It is amazing.


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#35 2012-02-01 01:03:27

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Re: Programming Languages

GameHutSoftware wrote:

i know java and flash
good languages to learn

YOu know flash is dead?
tongue


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#36 2012-02-01 01:05:56

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Re: Programming Languages

slinger wrote:

GameHutSoftware wrote:

i know java and flash
good languages to learn

YOu know flash is dead?
tongue

Not yet.


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#37 2012-02-01 01:07:41

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Re: Programming Languages

veggieman001 wrote:

slinger wrote:

GameHutSoftware wrote:

i know java and flash
good languages to learn

YOu know flash is dead?
tongue

Not yet.

Soon enough, javascript will take over.


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#38 2012-02-01 01:09:51

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Re: Programming Languages

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+1 for PHP. It is amazing.

Not that amazing.


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#39 2012-02-01 01:12:52

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Re: Programming Languages

Dinoclor wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

slinger wrote:


YOu know flash is dead?
tongue

Not yet.

Soon enough, javascript will take over.

Yeah, it will. I acknowledge that. But it definitely hasn't yet, so Flash is definitely not dead.


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#40 2012-02-01 01:16:40

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Re: Programming Languages

Freakish wrote:

ProgramCAT wrote:

+1 for PHP. It is amazing.

Not that amazing.

It is better than JQuery, at least. And ASP.

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#41 2012-02-01 01:17:02

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Re: Programming Languages

veggieman001 wrote:

Dinoclor wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:


Not yet.

Soon enough, javascript will take over.

Yeah, it will. I acknowledge that. But it definitely hasn't yet, so Flash is definitely not dead.

Ok whatever, it's not dead...
But it's not a really good language to learn because it IS dying.


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#42 2012-02-01 01:27:20

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Re: Programming Languages

ProgramCAT wrote:

Freakish wrote:

ProgramCAT wrote:

+1 for PHP. It is amazing.

Not that amazing.

It is better than JQuery, at least. And ASP.

No way.


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#43 2012-02-01 02:15:28

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Re: Programming Languages

Freakish wrote:

ProgramCAT wrote:

Freakish wrote:

Not that amazing.

It is better than JQuery, at least. And ASP.

No way.

OK, look, sorry.  sad
I just like PHP because of its remarkably clear syntax and its ease of learning.
With the exception of regular expressions. >:!

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#44 2012-02-01 09:11:38

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Re: Programming Languages

slinger wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Dinoclor wrote:


Soon enough, javascript will take over.

Yeah, it will. I acknowledge that. But it definitely hasn't yet, so Flash is definitely not dead.

Ok whatever, it's not dead...
But it's not a really good language to learn because it IS dying.

True. Thought it might be a good language to learn in spare time because it's still useful now in this age of IE.


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#45 2012-02-03 14:10:03

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Re: Programming Languages

I think PHP and the other web scripting languages would be most useful, so I'm going with those. Thanks everyone!  smile


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#46 2012-02-04 11:26:58

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Re: Programming Languages

veggieman001 wrote:

maxskywalker wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:


You can make an actual program though.

No.  Just websites.

Uh.. no? You can create complete user interfaces with it and it's Turing complete.

So you're saying that you can make a .exe or .app or .whatever with it that opens in something other than a web browser?

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#47 2012-02-04 11:28:36

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Re: Programming Languages

veggieman001 wrote:

slinger wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:


Yeah, it will. I acknowledge that. But it definitely hasn't yet, so Flash is definitely not dead.

Ok whatever, it's not dead...
But it's not a really good language to learn because it IS dying.

True. Thought it might be a good language to learn in spare time because it's still useful now in this age of IE.

I still like Flash.  HTML/JS isn't good for game programming, and Flash can very easily make rich web content.

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#48 2012-02-04 11:33:29

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Re: Programming Languages

maxskywalker wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

maxskywalker wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

You can make an actual program though.

No.  Just websites.

Uh.. no? You can create complete user interfaces with it and it's Turing complete.

So you're saying that you can make a .exe or .app or .whatever with it that opens in something other than a web browser?

Yeah, you can.

maxskywalker wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

slinger wrote:


Ok whatever, it's not dead...
But it's not a really good language to learn because it IS dying.

True. Thought it might be a good language to learn in spare time because it's still useful now in this age of IE.

I still like Flash.  HTML/JS isn't good for game programming, and Flash can very easily make rich web content.

Ehh. HTML is pretty easy, especially because it can be integrated so easily into the page. And if you know how, it is pretty good for game programming.


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#49 2012-02-04 11:38:59

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Re: Programming Languages

poopo wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

poopo wrote:


Have you ever bought a book and tried to learn from it?

Not a book, no, but I've looked up a kajillion tutorials on YouTube for Stencyl, but I'm getting nowhere.

You have to get a book. They are the only way to learn a programming language.

People learn in different ways. You might learn better reading things, but I learn better if I actually see it happening.


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#50 2012-02-04 13:18:59

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Re: Programming Languages

veggieman001 wrote:

maxskywalker wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

maxskywalker wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

You can make an actual program though.

No.  Just websites.

Uh.. no? You can create complete user interfaces with it and it's Turing complete.

So you're saying that you can make a .exe or .app or .whatever with it that opens in something other than a web browser?

Yeah, you can.

maxskywalker wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:


True. Thought it might be a good language to learn in spare time because it's still useful now in this age of IE.

I still like Flash.  HTML/JS isn't good for game programming, and Flash can very easily make rich web content.

Ehh. HTML is pretty easy, especially because it can be integrated so easily into the page. And if you know how, it is pretty good for game programming.

Flash has Stage3D.

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