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PlutoIsHades wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:

There's no law against eating meat and there never should be, unless an animal is going to make a real contribution to the world instead of eating grass and excreting everywhere I will slaughter and skin it for food and fur.

But why should animals be less important than humans?

Humans are technically animals.

Okay then, let me rephrase that:
Why are creatures other than humans less important than humans?

although this is off-topic, i'd like to state my opinions and views on hunting.


For food, it's alright.
Considering I am attempting to become a vegetarian this may surprise you, but I find hunting much more humane than slaughterhouses. You COULD live off the protein from tofu, peanuts, and lentils, but most people choose not to. I have for the most part, but it requires more planning than simply eating some lean chicken. Instead, you'd have to have some pretty protein-rich alternatives, especially if you're an athlete.

Our ancestors could've lived off non-meat alternatives, but their technology on how to process soy and such doesn't hit me as up to par. Now it's easier than ever to become vegetarian, but some aren't ready to make the switch.

However, I am all for animal rights and I oppose killing more animals than we need to. Cutting back on meat helps save space, pollutes less, saves lives, and is overall a good idea.

Last edited by littletonkslover (2012-01-02 09:40:02)

my-chemical-romance wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:

There's no law against eating meat and there never should be, unless an animal is going to make a real contribution to the world instead of eating grass and excreting everywhere I will slaughter and skin it for food and fur.

But why should animals be less important than humans?

Because they do nothing apart from eat our resources, if a cow could work like a human then it won't be killed, but otherwise it's sizzling on a grill. They live lives which don't hint towards death, they live on a huge grass field for a few years before being slain instantly, it's not like we force 30 of them into each metre squared then stab each one and leave them to bleed out.

Often not true, sadly. If you are talking about deer or a free-range animal, then yes. Otherwise, many turkey are forced into overcrowded barns where they live on top of eachother, their beaks cut and claws removed. When they are old enough to be killed, it's often in a very violent manner, such as slamming them to the floor before slitting their throats open alive.

It depends what company, of course.

RedRocker227 wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

But why should animals be less important than humans?

Because they do nothing apart from eat our resources, if a cow could work like a human then it won't be killed, but otherwise it's sizzling on a grill. They live lives which don't hint towards death, they live on a huge grass field for a few years before being slain instantly, it's not like we force 30 of them into each metre squared then stab each one and leave them to bleed out.

I mean this in the nicest way possible, but there's some humans who can't go to work, help the planet etc., yet they're still treated with respect.
I'm just saying, animals can't help that they're not intelligent enough to do anything productive, and so don't deserve to be killed, in my opinion.

That's because humans have emotional attachment to people, they don't say "My son is disabled, kill him", animals haven't gone to that level yet and just help their child survive until they do it themselves.

And many people eat meat because they like it, not all meateaters hate animals and want them all to die.

my-chemical-romance wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:

Because they do nothing apart from eat our resources, if a cow could work like a human then it won't be killed, but otherwise it's sizzling on a grill. They live lives which don't hint towards death, they live on a huge grass field for a few years before being slain instantly, it's not like we force 30 of them into each metre squared then stab each one and leave them to bleed out.

I mean this in the nicest way possible, but there's some humans who can't go to work, help the planet etc., yet they're still treated with respect.
I'm just saying, animals can't help that they're not intelligent enough to do anything productive, and so don't deserve to be killed, in my opinion.

That's because humans have emotional attachment to people, they don't say "My son is disabled, kill him", animals haven't gone to that level yet and just help their child survive until they do it themselves.

And many people eat meat because they like it, not all meateaters hate animals and want them all to die.

We're never gonna reach an agreement, are we? XD
So I guess we should stop this whole off topic argument :\

The question is not, "Can they reason?" nor, "Can they talk?" but rather, "Can they suffer?"  ~Jeremy Bentham


sorry, i was tempted//

Last edited by littletonkslover (2012-01-02 09:50:42)

Nerd hand
gunapp

"Guns don't kill people, I kill people."- Jaws, from James Bond.

Stop this off topic stuff. If you want to argue, go make another topic.

Umm...
Minigun

Good grief, if you want to argue, then create a separate topic. Don't hijack the thread.

As for the guns I couldn't say as I've never fired one. So... an AK-47? 

AK-47 rifle (Avtomat Kalashnikova model 1947)
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my-chemical-romance wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

AK-47 rifle (Avtomat Kalashnikova model 1947)

The American copy (M14) is terrible, keeps jamming.

You have one?
lol

Last edited by CheeseMunchy (2012-01-02 11:09:13)

SpriteMaster wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

videogame9 wrote:

If our really really old ancestors hadn't hunted, none of us would exist.

Plus, bacon.

We would still exist.
What's wrong with vegetables?
And other vegetarian food?

you need protein.

they didnt have protein bars in 300 B.C.

Protein bars aren't the only foods that contain protein.