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Greenatic · 2011-11-17 18:01:38

Pecola1 wrote:
XGamer42 wrote:
Greenatic wrote:

No, it's in the US.
Actually, the article said that it counts for all sites, even ones overseas
He means it only affects Americans, anyone out of america will still be able to view sites blocked in america.

Exactly. You won't be able to see blocked websites from overseas in America, but the US can't delete websites outside its jurisdiction. They can only require that they be blocked.

jji7skyline · 2011-11-17 18:40:26

Greenatic wrote:
Pecola1 wrote:
XGamer42 wrote:

Actually, the article said that it counts for all sites, even ones overseas
He means it only affects Americans, anyone out of america will still be able to view sites blocked in america.
Exactly. You won't be able to see blocked websites from overseas in America, but the US can't delete websites outside its jurisdiction. They can only require that they be blocked.

Yayayayayayayay!!!!!!!!!!! big_smile

Wickimen · 2011-11-17 18:42:07

jji7skyline wrote:
Greenatic wrote:
Pecola1 wrote:

He means it only affects Americans, anyone out of america will still be able to view sites blocked in america.
Exactly. You won't be able to see blocked websites from overseas in America, but the US can't delete websites outside its jurisdiction. They can only require that they be blocked.
Yayayayayayayay!!!!!!!!!!!

But won't sites in America that are blocked be blocked everywhere else too? Or no?
If they aren't, then the Scratch Team won't be able to view Scratch but users outside the US will.

Pecola1 · 2011-11-17 18:52:14

Wickimen wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:
Greenatic wrote:

Exactly. You won't be able to see blocked websites from overseas in America, but the US can't delete websites outside its jurisdiction. They can only require that they be blocked.
Yayayayayayayay!!!!!!!!!!!
But won't sites in America that are blocked be blocked everywhere else too? Or no?
If they aren't, then the Scratch Team won't be able to view Scratch but users outside the US will.

No, we wouldn't be able to view the sites but anyone from anywhere else can, its like my internet safety thing, it blocks sites, but ONLY FOR MY COMPUTER.

a1130 · 2011-11-17 19:11:32

Pecola1 wrote:
werdna123 wrote:
Hang on, just read this: "would allow the government to force Internet service providers to deny service to web sites that host pirated material -- even if those sites were hosted overseas".

So the US government can do stuff like that to places out of the US?
The sites are only blocked FOR the US.
In canada you could still use scratch if it was blocked in the us.

Also btw, it says "pirated material" scratch doesn't pirate.

Sooooooo...

Scratch doesn't pirate, but it's users might post some pirated song. Or may e some random link on the forums has to do with pirated software/warez. (I am sure nobody would do that, but a spammer might)

Pirating is basically a form of copyright infringement, so wouldn't be infringement=pirating?

hamsandwitch678 · 2011-11-17 19:13:30

If this passes:

"Canada, here I come."

SJRCS_011 · 2011-11-17 19:19:58

Could I add my two cents here?
I am neutral as of now. This is because I can see both sides' reasons. The supporters don't want their copyrights completely ignored. Those against it want to keep free speech. Both are justified reasons.
Now, for my suggestion: If this were to pass Congress, before it reaches the president, which it has a good chance of doing, the Scratch website should take immediate action - removing all the projects with possible copyrighted material. This way we as a community can survive. If it is vetoed, we could then restore all the projects (I know about the Dustbin smile ). This is my suggestion. You may not all like it, but I will always stand by it.

a1130 · 2011-11-17 19:27:45

Wickimen wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:
Greenatic wrote:

Exactly. You won't be able to see blocked websites from overseas in America, but the US can't delete websites outside its jurisdiction. They can only require that they be blocked.
Yayayayayayayay!!!!!!!!!!!
But won't sites in America that are blocked be blocked everywhere else too? Or no?
If they aren't, then the Scratch Team won't be able to view Scratch but users outside the US will.

You made me think of something. If Scratch gets blocked, it's not just bad for us. The ST and mods can't get on the site either... hmm

And why isn't anyone quoting me or agreeing- is it because everything I say is useless or something tongue

a1130 · 2011-11-17 19:29:02

SJRCS_011 wrote:
Could I add my two cents here?
I am neutral as of now. This is because I can see both sides' reasons. The supporters don't want their copyrights completely ignored. Those against it want to keep free speech. Both are justified reasons.
Now, for my suggestion: If this were to pass Congress, before it reaches the president, which it has a good chance of doing, the Scratch website should take immediate action - removing all the projects with possible copyrighted material. This way we as a community can survive. If it is vetoed, we could then restore all the projects (I know about the Dustbin ). This is my suggestion. You may not all like it, but I will always stand by it.

Yes, immediate action smile

Wickimen · 2011-11-17 19:32:04

a1130 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:

Yayayayayayayay!!!!!!!!!!!
But won't sites in America that are blocked be blocked everywhere else too? Or no?
If they aren't, then the Scratch Team won't be able to view Scratch but users outside the US will.
You made me think of something. If Scratch gets blocked, it's not just bad for us. The ST and mods can't get on the site either...

That's what I mean

a1130 · 2011-11-17 19:32:33

a1130 wrote:
SJRCS_011 wrote:
Could I add my two cents here?
I am neutral as of now. This is because I can see both sides' reasons. The supporters don't want their copyrights completely ignored. Those against it want to keep free speech. Both are justified reasons.
Now, for my suggestion: If this were to pass Congress, before it reaches the president, which it has a good chance of doing, the Scratch website should take immediate action - removing all the projects with possible copyrighted material. This way we as a community can survive. If it is vetoed, we could then restore all the projects (I know about the Dustbin ). This is my suggestion. You may not all like it, but I will always stand by it.
Yes, immediate action

In other words, I also agree.

fungirl123 · 2011-11-17 19:41:16

SJRCS_011 wrote:
Could I add my two cents here?
I am neutral as of now. This is because I can see both sides' reasons. The supporters don't want their copyrights completely ignored. Those against it want to keep free speech. Both are justified reasons.
Now, for my suggestion: If this were to pass Congress, before it reaches the president, which it has a good chance of doing, the Scratch website should take immediate action - removing all the projects with possible copyrighted material. This way we as a community can survive. If it is vetoed, we could then restore all the projects (I know about the Dustbin ). This is my suggestion. You may not all like it, but I will always stand by it.

I 100% agree smile

jji7skyline · 2011-11-17 19:42:03

a1130 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:

Yayayayayayayay!!!!!!!!!!!
But won't sites in America that are blocked be blocked everywhere else too? Or no?
If they aren't, then the Scratch Team won't be able to view Scratch but users outside the US will.
You made me think of something. If Scratch gets blocked, it's not just bad for us. The ST and mods can't get on the site either...

And why isn't anyone quoting me or agreeing- is it because everything I say is useless or something

Mods outside of the US would be able to get on...

Wickimen · 2011-11-17 19:45:51

jji7skyline wrote:
a1130 wrote:
Wickimen wrote:

But won't sites in America that are blocked be blocked everywhere else too? Or no?
If they aren't, then the Scratch Team won't be able to view Scratch but users outside the US will.
You made me think of something. If Scratch gets blocked, it's not just bad for us. The ST and mods can't get on the site either...

And why isn't anyone quoting me or agreeing- is it because everything I say is useless or something
Mods outside of the US would be able to get on...

But not the ST.

jji7skyline · 2011-11-17 19:54:35

Wickimen wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:
a1130 wrote:
You made me think of something. If Scratch gets blocked, it's not just bad for us. The ST and mods can't get on the site either...

And why isn't anyone quoting me or agreeing- is it because everything I say is useless or something
Mods outside of the US would be able to get on...
But not the ST.

No, because the ST are all based in America. But they could get on an offline version because they'd have access to the servers?

a1130 · 2011-11-17 20:59:52

jji7skyline wrote:
Wickimen wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:

Mods outside of the US would be able to get on...
But not the ST.
No, because the ST are all based in America. But they could get on an offline version because they'd have access to the servers?

What can that do? The servers are still part of the Internet...

JJROCKER · 2011-11-17 21:08:01

Will you guys stop already! This law will not do a single thing to change our lives and even if it did, the internet is not the base of our lives.

Greenatic · 2011-11-18 16:27:07

...No Youtube, for sure...
...Potentially, no Facebook...
...Twitter might be gone too...

JJROCKER wrote:
This law will not do a single thing to change our lives

...Excuse me?

Pecola1 · 2011-11-18 16:50:44

Greenatic wrote:
...No Youtube, for sure...
...Potentially, no Facebook...
...Twitter might be gone too...
JJROCKER wrote:
This law will not do a single thing to change our lives
...Excuse me?

Not for sure.
It may really mean only take down that page.
Or that class page or whatever its called.

Greenatic · 2011-11-18 17:56:11

Pecola1 wrote:
Greenatic wrote:
...No Youtube, for sure...
...Potentially, no Facebook...
...Twitter might be gone too...
JJROCKER wrote:
This law will not do a single thing to change our lives
...Excuse me?
Not for sure.
It may really mean only take down that page.
Or that class page or whatever its called.

No, it means that those websites can be sued if they host copyrighted material. If the bill doesn't pass, all the webiste has to do is remove that piece of material if its copyright holder requests that it be taken down. With this bill, both the user who submitted the material and the website that hosted it can be sued.

cheddargirl · 2011-11-18 18:23:30

JJROCKER wrote:
Will you guys stop already! This law will not do a single thing to change our lives and even if it did, the internet is not the base of our lives.

In the technology world of today, I might argue that is does play an important role of our lives.

A lot of information is shared online right now, things like Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube are now used to share information around the world. If this bill passes, it has the ability to prevent people living in the U.S. to access this information as well as prevent people outside the U.S. from sharing it. Why silence so many innocent people because of a few copyrighted material that could simply just vanish with a report and few clicks from the website admins?

CheckItNow12 · 2011-11-18 19:13:22

All I Wanted was to create a poll.

Greenatic · 2011-11-18 20:05:27

CheckItNow12 wrote:
All I Wanted was to create a poll.

XD Oh my...

cocolover76 · 2011-11-18 21:20:02

P-Cupcake wrote:
ToxicQuillz wrote:
Call me stupid but what is the censorship bill?
The end of freedom of speech on the Web.

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Don't blame me for the quality, blame the creators of KolourPaint.

CylonToast · 2011-11-18 21:47:20

CheckItNow12 wrote:
Vote here!

Maybe THIS Could be used to stop this madness!

This post may no longer be of use because the bill may have already been passed. :-(

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