Scratch

Donut-slayer wrote:

hi, me again. It turns out the icons I was using were made on mspaint and therefor not compatible, but I downloaded a random icon editor, made it 16x16 and it works!

well then, congratulations

Does Scratch2EXE work with Scratch 1.3 or higher.

Hi jasb and Mike_W, Scratch2Exe currently works for any Scratch 1.3.1 projects and earlier. If there is interest in the screensaver plugin I could also update that (hey, if somebody else wants to do it, the NSIS source code is included in the download, it's just a matter of updating some filenames) ...

Jens wrote:

If there is interest in the screensaver plugin I could also update that (hey, if somebody else wants to do it, the NSIS source code is included in the download, it's just a matter of updating some filenames) ...

There is interest - scratch can build some very cool screen savers.

Hi Mike_W,

Its's great that you consider giving the screensaver a shot. The source code for my screensaver is really simple. It's a NSIS file:

Name "Chirp Screensaver"
Caption "Chirp Screensaver"
RequestExecutionLevel user
OutFile "Chirp.scr"
Icon Chirp.ico

!include "FileFunc.nsh"
!insertmacro GetParameters

Var PARM

Function .onInit
  SetSilent silent

  System::Call 'kernel32::CreateMutexA(i 0, i 0, t "Chirp.scr") i .r1 ?e'
  Pop $R0
  StrCmp $R0 0 +2
    Abort
FunctionEnd

InstallDir nil
InstallDirRegKey HKLM "Software\Scratch" "Path"

Section
  ${GetParameters} $PARM
  StrCmp $PARM "/s" +2 0
    Abort

  StrCmp $INSTDIR "nil" 0 +2
    Abort
  execWait '"$INSTDIR\scratch.exe" "$INSTDIR\chirp.remix" "presentation"'
SectionEnd

Instead of the "chirp.remix" image you can take the image file from Scratch2Exe (Or JSO's image from his discScratchR, if you prefer that one).

Cheers.

I have made some more ground - know what it is looking for - don't have it working yet - but wanted to let you know I have the image file in there still not running. It loaded the editor thogh so I am making ground

Jens wrote:

You can start out by just using the image file that comes with Scratch (Scratch.image), to find out how it works. Afterwards all you have to do is exchange it with one that exits back to the OS instead of the edit mode). Good luck (and feel free to ask if you're stuck)!

Am stuck - looking for an image file (or how to build one) that will autorun a given scratch project.

My screensaver brings up the editor.

Which means - my computer now tells me - I have not done anything in a while so how about doing some scratch code.

If I understand what I am doing this is the line that I need to understand in the nsi file

execWait '"$INSTDIR\scratch.exe" "$INSTDIR\chirp.remix" "presentation"'

I don't know small talk or squeak (I do code in java, VBA, vb script on a daily basis so learning something does not intimidate me).

or am I totally off base that my problem could be in the NSI file.

Ok I have it launching scratch and starting my project.

How do I get the project to fully exit - and not return to the editor I have it calling presentation mode but I still get the editor.

Making ground and understanding why - so when I get this all done I will write up a how to - maybe ever write a small program to generate the nsi file.

Success!!! - Now I need to Duplicate, Document, and Create a NSI script builder

my last error was using the image file in the install path

I changed the image file I had in the screen saver directory but did not change

"$INSTDIR\chirp.remix"

Thank for you help Jens.

to point to it.

It´s a great tool. Wonderful job. I'm an educator who likes to experiment with this sort of thing and I am thinking of creating a website dedicated to simple educational games based on Scratch that I intend to create. The idea is to make available executable Scratch projects using your prototype. It´s just practical.

   Versions where you can see the code will also be made available but for example my 6 year old always manages to mess up my code when I leave him alone to play a game I made for him and even saves the changed file LOL so I really like the idea of an executable file.

   The applications will of course be free, there is no financial gain. In Portugal we actually have
a local application to share projects but the idea is to make available on my website applications
centered on fun AND education. Although the Scratch file sharing sites ( the main one and the one in Portugal) are great, I think many good projects go unnoticed.

What I want to know is if this is OK specially for downloading just the executable because of copyrights and all that. Is it enough to say that the application so and so  was  developed on Scratch MIT software and that the prototype compiler you  developed was used?

Thanks beforehand for your  answer and suggestions!

Thank you very much Jens. I am all for sharing code. The thing is for example I want to write

some educational projects just for kids to use ( like spelling  objects that appear on the screen)

because they can´t get the "programming" part and executables do come in handy. I will always

make source code available! As soon as I get the time to complete my first "serious" project I'll

upload it.

My web site idea is still about a hundred years away! LOL

You know thousands of kids in elementary school in Portugal now have " Magalhães", the

Portuguese adaptation of one of the first versions of the Classmate pc made

available  for 50 euros. There is also a program which makes other laptops available to older kids

for special prices. My point is kids of all ages are having more and more access to computers and

while executables of more complex projects will be better suited for little kids, the older ones

can really learn a lot from source code. I myself am doing that in order to learn!

I am trying to work on an editor which allows user input. The ultimate goal is for handwritten

characters to appear on the screen. Kids in elementary have to use " handwritten" characters

and for example most of Lucinda handwriting characters are quite different, specially

uppercase. Sorry for such a long message. Thanks again!

The project you are referring to is at this site http://kids.sapo.pt/scratch/. I actually learned about Scratch and downloaded it from MIT before this project appeared! I haven´t tried to download Scratch from that site, been putting it off because MIT version has Portuguese.

However I want to try it because although the version of Scratch that I have works great on my laptop, on my kid's Magalhães full screen mode doesn´t seem to work and when programming there are visualization problems at bottom or right...

Maybe this doesn´t happen with the "Portuguese"  version.

As for the project I'm trying to create, what you suggested is my main goal.However first I will just create costumes editing caracters with Lucinda Handwriting.

After getting user input on the screen ( I'll treat the stage like a sort of 2 dimensional array...)
to display properly I´ll replace the costumes with images of caracters I intend to digitalize from books so they'll come out perfect and "bind" properly when they form a word which I´ll have to do for each character...... The alternative is to draw on paper and digitalize. If I draw on the computer I don´t think I can get them to come out right. Think it's doable?

Thanks for feedback.

By the way the Portuguese website doesn´t have a forum, maybe later on...