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PokemonMaster64 wrote:

Someone who isn't mayhem wrote:

If everyone just accepted "God did it" we'd not be having this argument.

I think I'd agree with person 2... 

So you are saying that we shouldn't pursue scientific knowledge so as to avoid arguments?

You'd really rather be sitting in a dark dirty hovel watching and at the mercy of disease, instead of in a clean, modern house with electric lights and benefiting from modern medicine?

ok notin happened so why is everyone up in arms over it?

This, has gone way out of control.

big-bang wrote:

keikij wrote:

This, has gone way out of control.

No, it's just fulfilled its purpose of creating an argument.

It's purpose was to discuss the LHC (I think). Not to create argument...

We just like to debate 

zawicki1fromyoutube wrote:

Will someone close this?

Why? It's fun, and nobody's reverted to pointless namecalling yet!

zawicki1fromyoutube wrote:

big-bang wrote:

I'm a total astrophysics nerd in my spare time! I know what I'm talking about! This thread will taste imminent doom because it's just a pointless argument, but until then, ASK SOMEBODY WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS ABOUT THE UNIVERSE!!!

Oh and the "little dot" was a singularity and STUFF IS MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT SEEMS! YOU CANNOT SUMMARIZE THE UNIVERSE!!!

(My apologies if I've offended anybody. I get worked up about this stuff. This belongs on a forum about more pointless stuff, so could a mod close this topic? Thank you.)

Listen, at least TRY reading the Bible. There is nothing in there, that you can prove is a lie. now you tell me how many lies you find, when you finish the book.

Do you believe in dragons? Do you believe in unicorns? Do you believe in cockatrices? Do you think bats are a kind of bird?

Listen, at least TRY reading the Bible. There is nothing in there, that you can prove is a lie. now you tell me how many lies you find, when you finish the book.

I can find several.

The theory of religion has several flaws which a lot of people don't seem to pick up on.

demosthenes wrote:

Mayhem wrote:

Not to mention the whole "the sun goes around the earth" business...

Oh yeah! I forgot about that little blip in religion that most people ignore.

Yes, people get hypocritical easily with religion. Therein lies some fascinating dichotomies.

big-bang wrote:

PokemonMaster64 wrote:

Ooh! Goody! It's the age old science vs. god discussion! Why do those scientists never give up? There is no reason to try to disprove what somebody believes... How do we know it wasn't a jelly donut that exploded creating the primordial ramen with anchovies swimming in it that eventually leveled up to level 16 and turned into apes only to reach level 36 and turn into humans? Scientists try to disprove god so they can say that they aren't sinners, but isn't it even lower to say "I evolved from a monkey! I'm an animal, w00t!"? Can we get back to the large hadron collider discussion now or do you want to keep arguing and ignore THE (possible) END OF THE WORLD? 

Monkeys evolved from bacteria... Isn't it even lower to say "I'm gullible enough to believe that I got made by a giant guy in the sky"? And what is the thing that sets "humans" apart from "animals"? We live. We breathe. We find sustenance. Take away his inventions, and man is weaker than his furry brethren. How are we "better" than the other life-forms on this planet? We are the only ones systematically destroying our home. And instead of helping solve this problem, we debate over how there's an omnipresent force! And why has a Bible prophecy never stated EXACTLY what's going to happen? Answer: The people millenia ago wanted to get a kick out of the gullible futuremen. This is what I adhere to. Not some silly debate that a tool for greater understanding of the universe will kill us all, thanks to those poor, nonbelieving, naive scientists who strive to find explanations other than "God did it"! I doubt the point of Christianity was to impede scientific progress. Isn't religion something to find a moral standpoint to strive for? Isn't religion something to help you act like a better person? Isn't religion something other than skeptics going into the Space Age kicking and screaming like centipedes on drugs? Apparently not! Mayhem, please, find a quote somewhere that does say that Christianity is not supposed to impede understanding. I know there's one out there. I don't feel like leafing through a thousand pages of the Bible right now 

Woo! long post there!

God is not a giant guy in the sky. It never said that in the bible.

I personally think that the reason God isn't telling us exactly what he's going to do is because our human minds can't handle it. Who knows? Nobody has seen god's face because his awesomeness would kill them, so maybe his plans are the same deal.

Also, I don't feel like leafing through all those scientific words, definitions, and stuff either.

Sorry if my jelly donut thing offended you.

demosthenes wrote:

PokemonMaster64 wrote:

big-bang wrote:

Monkeys evolved from bacteria... Isn't it even lower to say "I'm gullible enough to believe that I got made by a giant guy in the sky"? And what is the thing that sets "humans" apart from "animals"? We live. We breathe. We find sustenance. Take away his inventions, and man is weaker than his furry brethren. How are we "better" than the other life-forms on this planet? We are the only ones systematically destroying our home. And instead of helping solve this problem, we debate over how there's an omnipresent force! And why has a Bible prophecy never stated EXACTLY what's going to happen? Answer: The people millenia ago wanted to get a kick out of the gullible futuremen. This is what I adhere to. Not some silly debate that a tool for greater understanding of the universe will kill us all, thanks to those poor, nonbelieving, naive scientists who strive to find explanations other than "God did it"! I doubt the point of Christianity was to impede scientific progress. Isn't religion something to find a moral standpoint to strive for? Isn't religion something to help you act like a better person? Isn't religion something other than skeptics going into the Space Age kicking and screaming like centipedes on drugs? Apparently not! Mayhem, please, find a quote somewhere that does say that Christianity is not supposed to impede understanding. I know there's one out there. I don't feel like leafing through a thousand pages of the Bible right now 

Woo! long post there!

God is not a giant guy in the sky. It never said that in the bible.

I personally think that the reason God isn't telling us exactly what he's going to do is because our human minds can't handle it. Who knows? Nobody has seen god's face because his awesomeness would kill them, so maybe his plans are the same deal.

Also, I don't feel like leafing through all those scientific words, definitions, and stuff either.

Sorry if my jelly donut thing offended you.

Why would we want to worship someone who kills us if we even look at him?

He doesn't let people look at his face.

SteveB wrote:

Are we talking about the same experiment where the security was leaked. Some hackers hacked into the project and had complete control of things?? This definitely sounds scary.

Can you give a reputable source for this information, or are you ripping it off a chain email? I have to be wary about things like that when people debate religion. Want to join the argument?

I think it is kinda cool what the accelerator does... absolute zero, complete vacuum, light speed particles... but I don't think it is going to work properly, let alone create a black hole.

Actually, science is quite a serious thing in itself. Why dangerous experiments? Countries do it for their own national safety. The whole world cannot come to an agreement, and if a country will not evolve and discover, even risking the lives of people, then another country will have advantage over it and might easily conquer it and such. It is like an endless race for discoveries - who's first? And, in these days, I should say that the risk of a war is very high, a lot higher than the risk of Earth being swallowed into a black hole.