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#3876 2011-10-19 15:34:59

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

@rookwood101, last month I got a beast too  big_smile  My dad is an IT guy who gets allot of free stuff from his work place so for a long time I got nothing but hand me down dino's. Then I bought something pretty sweet for my bday.


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#3877 2011-10-19 16:32:47

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@ Jens

THANK YOU FOR SCROLLING SPEED UP !!

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#3878 2011-10-20 04:14:09

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xly wrote:

@ Jens

THANK YOU FOR SCROLLING SPEED UP !!

http://www.xleroy.net/ByobTuto/New/Snap!/flowers.gif

show off  big_smile


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#3879 2011-10-20 04:42:33

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

okay, you guys can now start experimenting with the new reporter slot in the CALL block!


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#3880 2011-10-20 07:53:36

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What's the 16:25?  hmm

New scrolling is awesome! Thanks, Jens.  smile


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#3881 2011-10-20 08:31:19

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Thanks!, Oh, and I've fiddled with first class continuations some more, so that now I believe I've gotten them right and real...


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#3882 2011-10-20 09:20:39

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

My dual core Pentium thanks you very much Jens.  big_smile  Though I've noticed any momentum the scrolling had is now gone. Have you decided to remove that feature?

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#3883 2011-10-20 09:43:34

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Hi Shadow, the scrolling momentum is still there. Maybe reloading the page helps...


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#3884 2011-10-20 10:34:37

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Jens wrote:

okay, you guys can now start experimenting with the new reporter slot in the CALL block!

is http://yourimg.in/m/7tw1627.png this what you're talking about, or is it a bug?


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#3885 2011-10-20 10:39:52

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yup, rookwood101, that's precisely what I mean. You can drop reporters inside the slot, in which case there is a grey border around them and the slot auto-lambdafies them, or on top of the slot (like any other slot), in which case the reporter gets evaluated normally.


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#3886 2011-10-20 16:07:02

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Here's a not very good list implementation: http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff508/Taneb/Screenshot-1.png

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#3887 2011-10-21 08:48:52

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

i made a BYOB .deb package!
now you can install BYOB on ubuntu, debian etc. in 3-4 clicks  big_smile
wld be very happy if you put this on the site  smile

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#3888 2011-10-21 10:01:15

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Taneb wrote:

Here's a not very good list implementation:

That's a great list implementation!  Except, I would pick different names for the inputs to make it a little easier to read.  smile   And I would start with an empty list (could just be the word "the-empty-list" or anything other than a function) instead of a singleton list.


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#3889 2011-10-21 10:11:30

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roijac wrote:

i made a BYOB .deb package!

Thanks!  It's up on the web page.  Now see if you can convert it to a .rpm package.  smile


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#3890 2011-10-21 10:55:59

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bharvey wrote:

roijac wrote:

i made a BYOB .deb package!

Thanks!  It's up on the web page.  Now see if you can convert it to a .rpm package.  smile

don't think i'll make also a .rpm, i'm too lazy  tongue
anyway, the site doesn't look like updated :S

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#3891 2011-10-21 11:09:35

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roijac wrote:

bharvey wrote:

roijac wrote:

i made a BYOB .deb package!

Thanks!  It's up on the web page.  Now see if you can convert it to a .rpm package.  smile

don't think i'll make also a .rpm, i'm too lazy  tongue
anyway, the site doesn't look like updated :S

It is, look in downloads.


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#3892 2011-10-21 11:16:26

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Hardmath123 wrote:

roijac wrote:

bharvey wrote:

Thanks!  It's up on the web page.  Now see if you can convert it to a .rpm package.  smile

don't think i'll make also a .rpm, i'm too lazy  tongue
anyway, the site doesn't look like updated :S

It is, look in downloads.

i deleted cache and it's there  roll
oops...

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#3893 2011-10-21 13:24:02

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Taneb wrote:

Here's a not very good list implementation: http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff5 … shot-1.png

If BYOB didn't have lists, this would probably be the only way to get anything like a list, but it will be quite confusing weather it was a lost or a normal script, UNLESS you made a "list" class usingmy idea!!!

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#3894 2011-10-21 14:41:08

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

Taneb wrote:

Here's a not very good list implementation:

That's a great list implementation!  Except, I would pick different names for the inputs to make it a little easier to read.  smile   And I would start with an empty list (could just be the word "the-empty-list" or anything other than a function) instead of a singleton list.

I made these changes, wasn't hard at all:
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff508/Taneb/Screenshot-1-1.png

I also think there should be a shorthand for call with inputs. With big projects in 3.1, I generally make one myself. As it stands, they are REALLLY LONG compared to other languages where they are just brackets, or in Haskell, just implied. (call (the (( ) + ( )) block) with inputs (8) (9)) is equivalent to Haskell's (+) 8 9.

ALSO also, the .deb installer doesn't work for me. I'm on Ubuntu 11.04, which may explain it, but still.

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#3895 2011-10-21 16:47:21

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Taneb wrote:

I also think there should be a shorthand for call with inputs.

What I really want is that when you assign a block/script to a variable, it shows up in the Other palette, with the right shape and the right inputs!  But that's hard b/c the value of a variable can change on the fly.  Maybe we need something like CONST that would let you assign a value to a variable and promise not to change it.

ALSO also, the .deb installer doesn't work for me.

I don't have a Debian system to try it on (our sysadmins chose Fedora to support) so you guys will have to work this out!


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#3896 2011-10-21 16:54:53

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joefarebrother wrote:

UNLESS you made a "list" class using[url=http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=73428]my idea[/url!!!

Ah.  I have to confess, I rarely manage to get to the (other) Advanced Topics (let alone anywhere else in the fora), so it's best to put suggestions either here or at byobugs.com.

We are pretty committed to prototyping OOP rather than class/instance OOP.  The latter is a trivial extension to the former, but not the other way around.  And we're at the moment committed to using sprites as the objects; you can make some other kind of object by just hiding the associated sprite (but you can still find it in the sprite corral, to edit its properties, which is a plus).

But, yeah, you could make a List sprite, with a constructor method (although we don't call them that; you'd just write a global New List block that would ASK [ASK (List) [CLONE]] [Constructor <val>...]

Summary:  We can already do what you want in 3.1 and will be able to do it in 4.0 before its official release.


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#3897 2011-10-21 16:59:34

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Taneb wrote:

I made these changes, wasn't hard at all

P.S.  I was thinking

SET (empty-list) TO (the-empty-list)

no THE SCRIPT or anything, and just let it error if you ask for more items than are in the list.  smile   And there would only be one empty list, so

IF < (var) = (empty-list) > ...

would work.


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#3898 2011-10-21 17:51:54

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i made a cool spring

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Make it in Scratch! because it's cooler when it's made in scratch
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#3899 2011-10-22 00:17:41

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Is the saving feature coming soon? ... Look at all these projects made by the users! I want to see them without having to Snap! blocks together!  smile


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#3900 2011-10-22 08:06:21

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http://www.imgpaste.com/r1N1.png

...

By any chance, could you give me the code for an individual block? I'd like to try making some Snap! blocks.

EDIT: I know about the empty hole in the Set block, I took that out before taking the picture. And yes, I did run the set one before.

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