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#1 2011-10-05 17:12:03

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the world where pi is 3

If pi, the value famous for being an unrepeating, messy number that has been calculated to 10 million figures and shows no sign of repeating itself was suddenly a comfortable 3, how do you think the world would change? the value of pi is irrefutably bound into the radius and circumference of a circle so if it was three, would the world explode, would the laws of physics change? How do you think the world would differ?


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#2 2011-10-05 17:14:30

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Re: the world where pi is 3

circles would be different


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#3 2011-10-05 17:15:48

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Re: the world where pi is 3

Questions: How does a machine count the numbers of pi?
               How did it start?
                ^ Where did pi come from?
                ^ Who or what made it?


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#4 2011-10-05 17:21:32

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Re: the world where pi is 3

wikipedia wrote:

π can be empirically estimated by drawing a large circle, then measuring its diameter and circumference and dividing the circumference by the diameter. Another geometry-based approach, attributed to Archimedes,[32] is to calculate the perimeter, Pn, of a regular polygon with n sides circumscribed around a circle with diameter d. Then compute the limit of a sequence as n increases to infinity:
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wikipedia also wrote:

π can also be calculated using purely mathematical methods. Due to the transcendental nature of π, there are no closed form expressions for the number in terms of algebraic numbers and functions. Formulas for calculating π using elementary arithmetic typically include series or summation notation (such as "..."), which indicates that the formula is really a formula for an infinite sequence of approximations to π. The more terms included in a calculation, the closer to π the result will get.

Most formulae used for calculating the value of π have desirable mathematical properties, but are difficult to understand without a background in trigonometry and calculus. However, some are quite simple, such as this form of the Gregory–Leibniz series:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/4/9/0/4903aa53b3b3e348a2bf36359d9b2d27.png

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#5 2011-10-05 17:23:13

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Re: the world where pi is 3

sparks wrote:

wikipedia wrote:

π can be empirically estimated by drawing a large circle, then measuring its diameter and circumference and dividing the circumference by the diameter. Another geometry-based approach, attributed to Archimedes,[32] is to calculate the perimeter, Pn, of a regular polygon with n sides circumscribed around a circle with diameter d. Then compute the limit of a sequence as n increases to infinity:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e … ee4ae9.png

wikipedia also wrote:

π can also be calculated using purely mathematical methods. Due to the transcendental nature of π, there are no closed form expressions for the number in terms of algebraic numbers and functions. Formulas for calculating π using elementary arithmetic typically include series or summation notation (such as "..."), which indicates that the formula is really a formula for an infinite sequence of approximations to π. The more terms included in a calculation, the closer to π the result will get.

Most formulae used for calculating the value of π have desirable mathematical properties, but are difficult to understand without a background in trigonometry and calculus. However, some are quite simple, such as this form of the Gregory–Leibniz series:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e … 9b2d27.png

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#6 2011-10-05 17:35:56

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Re: the world where pi is 3

This is a nonsensical question as it basically asks 'why does 1 - 1 = 0?'

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#7 2011-10-05 17:49:08

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Re: the world where pi is 3

I'm not asking why something equals something, I'm asking what the world would be like IF pi equalled three!


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#8 2011-10-05 18:06:33

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Re: the world where pi is 3

that would be quite strange


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#9 2011-10-05 18:11:17

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Re: the world where pi is 3

I think that firstly several people would be out of a job - the ones searching for the full length of pi...


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#10 2011-10-05 18:36:13

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Re: the world where pi is 3

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#11 2011-10-05 20:07:50

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Re: the world where pi is 3

Pi would be a rational number.
And we wouldn't call it pi anymore, we'd just say '3'.

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#12 2011-10-05 20:09:39

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Re: the world where pi is 3

schools would have tought us incorrectly


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#13 2011-10-05 20:24:04

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Re: the world where pi is 3

Then circles wouldn't exist.


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#14 2011-10-05 20:42:58

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Re: the world where pi is 3

Shadowsonics wrote:

Questions: How does a machine count the numbers of pi?
               How did it start?
                ^ Where did pi come from?
                ^ Who or what made it?

pi is 22 divided by 3.


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#15 2011-10-05 20:51:08

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Re: the world where pi is 3

pikachu1337 wrote:

Shadowsonics wrote:

Questions: How does a machine count the numbers of pi?
               How did it start?
                ^ Where did pi come from?
                ^ Who or what made it?

pi is 22 divided by 3.

No it isn't


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#16 2011-10-05 21:12:13

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Re: the world where pi is 3

that'd be kinda weird


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#17 2011-10-05 21:20:06

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Re: the world where pi is 3

Ok, one way a computer can calculate pi (it was said earlier, but I'll explain it a little more) is by alternately adding and subtracting the fraction of 4/odd number.  In other words, we start with 0 and add 4/1 (4).  Our total is 4 now.  Then we subtract 4/3 (3 is the next odd number up) and end up at 2 and 2 thirds or 8/3.  Then we add (alternating this operation, see?) 4/5 to get 52/15 or 3 and 7/15.  We repeat this process in to eternity to get more exact values of pi.

As for what would change in the world, possibly what would happen is that our perception of the world would be distorted onto the face of sphere instead of on a flat plane...basically a fish eye effect.  That's what I think at least.


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#18 2011-10-05 21:59:13

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Everything would be spirals.


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#19 2011-10-05 23:29:48

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Re: the world where pi is 3

pikachu1337 wrote:

Shadowsonics wrote:

Questions: How does a machine count the numbers of pi?
               How did it start?
                ^ Where did pi come from?
                ^ Who or what made it?

pi is 22 divided by 3.

About 22/7.

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#20 2011-10-05 23:31:32

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Re: the world where pi is 3

PW132 wrote:

Everything would be spirals.

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#21 2011-10-05 23:32:49

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Re: the world where pi is 3

I did not know about pie.


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#22 2011-10-06 01:49:18

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Re: the world where pi is 3

The greatest impact would be that a troll science comic would be herp derp'd.


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#23 2011-10-06 11:27:14

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Re: the world where pi is 3

So like if a circle's radius was 5. You could find the circumference by 2 x 3 x 5.  hmm

It would be a heck of a lot easier. xD

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#24 2011-10-06 11:39:22

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Re: the world where pi is 3

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

So like if a circle's radius was 5. You could find the circumference by 2 x 3 x 5.  hmm

It would be a heck of a lot easier. xD

Either you are joking or you don't understand what 3.141 actually is. If you'd use 3 instead of Pi you wouldn't have a circle.

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#25 2011-10-06 11:43:31

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Re: the world where pi is 3

Vurb wrote:

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

So like if a circle's radius was 5. You could find the circumference by 2 x 3 x 5.  hmm

It would be a heck of a lot easier. xD

Either you are joking or you don't understand what 3.14 actually is. If you'd use 3 instead of Pi you wouldn't have a circle.

I know it wouldn't work.  roll

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