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#1 2009-01-11 23:25:11

blackturtle
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Registered: 2009-01-11
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Unsupported Keys

The key pressed method doesn't support several keys such as the square brackets keys, the comma, period, and question mark keys, etc. Is there a work around to get scratch to respond to these keys? I'm trying to implement a Russian keyboard layout demo in Scratch and there are 33 characters in the Russian alphabet. Seven of the characters are mapped to keys that Scratch doesn't seem to support. Any suggestions? How do they deal with this in Russian versions of Scratch?

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#2 2009-01-11 23:32:40

hmnwilson
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Registered: 2007-07-04
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Re: Unsupported Keys

Many people want these keys but since scratch supports many languages and some keyboards don't have some keys that others do, they decided to take some out. (that, and they don't want beginners to get confused.)


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#3 2009-01-12 12:58:10

blackturtle
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Re: Unsupported Keys

So how does that work out for people using the Russian keyboard? On the Russian keyboard layout the square-right-bracket, square-left-bracket, comma, period, etc. are used for actual letters in the alphabet. So do these people just have to do without some of the letters in their alphabet? If not, then why aren't these keys mapped to something on English versions of Scratch? (I've heard the keep-it-simple explanation for the limited number of supported keys... but, come on, I'm not really buying it!)

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#4 2009-01-12 17:49:08

hmnwilson
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Re: Unsupported Keys

...I'd like to see what the scratch team thinks about this.


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#5 2009-01-17 07:03:04

gromko
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Registered: 2008-07-17
Posts: 10

Re: Unsupported Keys

Uvajaemye ! Scratch 1.3.1 imeet bag pri vvode ne-latinskih simvolov (komandy "govorit'", "dumat'") - poluchaem "krakoziabry". Problema v virtual'noj mashine Squeak-3.9-8, kotoraja ispol'zuetsia v Scratch-1.3.1. Zamena VM na Squeak-3.10-1 reshaet etu problemu (provereno v Linux, u Windows ne proverial). Mojete soobschit' razrabotchikam

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#6 2009-01-20 20:12:45

EveningSage
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Registered: 2009-01-10
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Re: Unsupported Keys

Yeah the backspace key would be useful too.

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#7 2009-01-20 23:56:00

AlanProjects
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Registered: 2008-06-23
Posts: 500+

Re: Unsupported Keys

EveningSage wrote:

Yeah the backspace key would be useful too.

Can't. It sucks, but back space and enter keys are reserved for scratch. Enter in scratch starts a project, while delete or backspace stops it, like the flags.

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#8 2009-01-21 12:51:38

BlackEdge
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Registered: 2009-01-20
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Re: Unsupported Keys

And the logic of playing cod5 or whatever with comma and fullstop just sounds stupid. I don't know what you are doing that need all the letters, but you could complicate it and use the russian version of z (the least used letter) as a shift so if u press it and another key it comes up with a different letter.


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