Scratch

Metagross923 wrote:

READ THIS PLEASE
I do not know what is going on I NEED AN EXPLANATION PLEASE.
I need to know what I will be working on, I keep getting ignored when I make it abundantly clear that I need filling in.
CAN YOU GUYS FILL ME IN???
Thats better!
Also I will be away for 4 days, I will return on friday the 12th
I will program a minigame or something more technical, YOU TELL ME I CANNOT READ YOUR MINDS.
Thats about it, Please act out the stuff in CAPS, Sorry for being rude, I just typed a long message on a 3DS keyboard, finished it and accidentally pressed refresh 
This was the second time...
From Metagross923

We are making minigames and updates for the minigames. I am making the story for inbetween the minigames. Hope you know what I'm talking about.

ads98 wrote:

Metagross923 wrote:

READ THIS PLEASE
I do not know what is going on I NEED AN EXPLANATION PLEASE.
I need to know what I will be working on, I keep getting ignored when I make it abundantly clear that I need filling in.
CAN YOU GUYS FILL ME IN???
Thats better!
Also I will be away for 4 days, I will return on friday the 12th
I will program a minigame or something more technical, YOU TELL ME I CANNOT READ YOUR MINDS.
Thats about it, Please act out the stuff in CAPS, Sorry for being rude, I just typed a long message on a 3DS keyboard, finished it and accidentally pressed refresh 
This was the second time...
From Metagross923

Hey dude, I'm really sorry you feel that way. You see, for some reason, Kamesh feels like he doesn't have to tell you what's going on. Personally, I don't agree with this. I think it would just be easier for him to tell you what's going on, but I do rescpect his choice; he may be very busy. Well, since you're a programmer, go to the In Use folder in Dropbox. Then, look at all the scripts, and see if you can find any programming errors or bugs. If you do find any, please tell me. I'm very sorry for the miscomunication  . Thank you for your patience.

Yeah, it would be nice if he gave us like daily reports. and ice cream XD[/offtopic]

Last edited by christian2000 (2011-08-09 18:18:17)

ads98 wrote:

Metagross923 wrote:

READ THIS PLEASE
I do not know what is going on I NEED AN EXPLANATION PLEASE.
I need to know what I will be working on, I keep getting ignored when I make it abundantly clear that I need filling in.
CAN YOU GUYS FILL ME IN???
Thats better!
Also I will be away for 4 days, I will return on friday the 12th
I will program a minigame or something more technical, YOU TELL ME I CANNOT READ YOUR MINDS.
Thats about it, Please act out the stuff in CAPS, Sorry for being rude, I just typed a long message on a 3DS keyboard, finished it and accidentally pressed refresh :(
This was the second time...
From Metagross923

Hey dude, I'm really sorry you feel that way. You see, for some reason, Kamesh feels like he doesn't have to tell you what's going on. Personally, I don't agree with this. I think it would just be easier for him to tell you what's going on, but I do rescpect his choice; he may be very busy. Well, since you're a programmer, go to the In Use folder in Dropbox. Then, look at all the scripts, and see if you can find any programming errors or bugs. If you do find any, please tell me. I'm very sorry for the miscomunication :(. Thank you for your patience.

Wait, wait, wait, wait- HOLD ON. I don't feel like I don't have tell him what's going on? Read the 16th post on the 12th page of this forum and tell me what it says. After you're done reading THAT, now go to page 14 and read post 7. I replied twice to his his questions. I'm not saying its anyone's fault, I just don't know why you're trying to pin it on me...?, (sorry if you felt that you were ignored Metagross, you probably just didn't see my posts when I replied to you)

Last edited by kamesh (2011-08-08 12:46:41)

Hello, all! I'm now back from holiday, and I'm happy to help you out with anything you like.

I've just got onto the DropBox, and will have a look at everything there. Is it okay if I share the folder with my own DropBox account, to make it easier? Thanks!

kamesh wrote:

You can do that [folder sharing], also if you don't know what we are doing right now, you can read all of the previous forum pages or I'll just explain it to you.
We're making a game where the Scratch cat gets kidnapped by someone named Jak, and the player has to go around the world and play minigames (based on the theme of the country) to get a clue to where the cat is is. Right now we all just picked a country, and made a minigame based on it, they are all in dropbox. You can pick a country and do a minigame on it. After that, we need a programmer to string all of them [minigames] together and and a story/script.

I've kept up-to-date on the forum, so I know roughly what we're doing. I've been going through all the minigames, and will post my thoughts about each of them in just a bit.

I'd be happy to help string the minigames together, given a script to work with.

kamesh wrote:

Happy_011 is from Romania, dasbloekendeschaf is from Germany, acmulan1, christian 2000 and me are from U.S.A, Dinoclor is from Canada, Justjess678 is from France, Metagross923 and DIY are from the U.K.

I'm also from the UK. You mentioned somewhere about having animations between each minigame; I don't know exactly what you were thinking, but would it be a good idea to have a world map that zoomed in and out between countries? It could include a plane flying between them. It would fit with "Team Earth", and it could also be marked with the usernames of each member of the team, showing where in the world they live.

Here's the script Dinoclor wrote:

Dinoclor wrote:

Double revised version:

See Kaj run into an aeroplane
See Kaj running away with the scratch cat into japan (I'll find a background).
See Kaj running through (the place where the japanese game is set).
A guy tells you that you HAVE to use the (japanese game), or he'll kick you out the way you came in.
Play a game, if u win get this clue:
The guy heard Kaj likes American Cheese.
Back to map
Go to usa:
See Kaj running away with the scratch cat into USA (I'll find a background).
See Kaj running through (the place where the american game is set).
(PLAY USA GAME) .If u win, this clue:
A guy says Kaj REALLY loves cheese, he's probably somewhere where the're's lots of it. (france)
Back to map
Go to france:
Kaj is eating cheese and the Scratch cat is tied up. The scratch cat says "Help me!".
Kaj notices and runs away, pulling a lever and you get buried in cheese.
Play a game (i thought something like: Eat the cheese)
Clue if you win:
Another guy says Kaj said something about extra hot salsa. (Mexico)
Kaj is dipping the scratch cat in salsa. (O_o). The scratch cat says "I don't like salsa!"
Plays hangman (if you lose, the scratch cat gets dipped in the salsa.)
A guy says Kaj wanted to go see a real live wild lion. (Africa)
Scratch cat is being chased by the lion (The lion say ROOAR! Scratch cat says HEEELP!)
Plays (African game) if wins:
Kaj says "GRR! Maybe scratch cat won't like kangaroos!" (africa)
Goes to Austrailia
Scratch cat says "HEELP! I have a phobia of kangaroos!"
plays (austrailian game), if wins:
Kaj says "Auf Wiedersehen!" (germany)
Goes plays if wins:
The scratch cat yells "HEELP! I don't like wasabi!"(Japan)
Goes, plays another japanese game if wins:
A vampire yells "BOO!" What country now? (Romania)
Goes, plays Happy_011's game, if wins:
A bunch of people start singing canadian national anthem (Canada)
Goes plays if wins:
a salesman says "India is a nice country. Go visit it!"
goes plays if wins:
Kaj sticks his tounge out and yells "Come and get your kitteh!" You follow him.
Goes plays if wins:
Kaj: Oh, so you found me.
Player:Give me the scratch cat !
Kaj:Never! Only if you answer this:
Some questions.
If all are correct:
Kaj:Ok , take the kitteh. I just wanted some attention.
The next day:
Scratch cat: After some incidents, i'm back here and ready to choose the winer.
SC:And the winner is:
*drums play*
Sc:Team Earth! (our logo shows up)
Crowd:SOme yay's and Ohh's, mixed up.
End credits, on Happy_011's rickroll song.
If the player ends the game without one lose, he gets some extras, (no ideas).

kamesh wrote:

blob8108 wrote:

You mentioned somewhere about having animations between each minigame; I don't know exactly what you were thinking, but would it be a good idea to have a world map that zoomed in and out between countries? It could include a plane flying between them. It would fit with "Team Earth", and it could also be marked with the usernames of each member of the team, showing where in the world they live.

I like that idea, once we get the order of the countries finalized, we can use that ex. show the player flying from Brazil to Germany. Also, for the usernames part- we can use that in the credits and the end or at the beginning. (I like beginni)ng

Personally, I'd say they'd fit better at the end, but it's up to you.

Is this still the latest version of the script? Ah; I see it is.

The order of the countries there doesn't seem to fit with the minigames; does it need revising?

Whoever compiles them together could add the world map in the process; I'm still happy to do that.

When will all the minigames be finished? ie, when are we going to start putting them all together?

Last edited by blob8108 (2011-08-08 13:36:57)

I'm sorry Kamesh, I did not mean to offend you. I am not trying to pin anything on you. Even though you replied to him, I don't think he saw it. That's why he kept asking. I thought it would just be easier for you to tell him one more time, instead of letting it get to this. Again, I am not trying to pin the blame on you, or anyone. It is just as much my fault as it is anyones. I just don't like to see myself or anyone get ignored. I respect you and your leadership; I just want everyone on the same page.

kamesh wrote:

Timeline:

By August 3- Finalize idea (Dinoclor, Justjess678, AlphaTween13)
By August 5- Decide upon characters, sprites, story, backgrounds (Everyone)
By August 7- Make all of the sprites and backgrounds (Happy_011, Justjess678,  christian2000 blob8108)
By August 12 - Finish all of the programming ( Acmulan1, Tornfusion, Metagross923, DIY)
By August 14- Add sounds ( ads98, MehaSofts), Edit ( dasbloekendeschaf, ads98)
By August 15- Submit Draft 1
August 15- 30- Improve the projects as much as possible.

Here is the timeline

kamesh wrote:

Dinoclor is doing the same thing as you so if he's online, you should talk to him.

Apologies for asking, but just to be clear: what exactly do you mean by "the same thing as me"?

kamesh wrote:

Also, this is the latest of the script- no one has updated it yet. We're replacing australia with Brazil.  And for the order of the countries, just re-arrange them with the script or vice versa, the order isn't really that important, as long as the clues fit.

It would be really helpful if someone could update the script, with the changes.

blob8108 wrote:

kamesh wrote:

Dinoclor is doing the same thing as you so if he's online, you should talk to him.

Apologies for asking, but just to be clear: what exactly do you mean by "the same thing as me"?

kamesh wrote:

Also, this is the latest of the script- no one has updated it yet. We're replacing australia with Brazil.  And for the order of the countries, just re-arrange them with the script or vice versa, the order isn't really that important, as long as the clues fit.

It would be really helpful if someone could update the script, with the changes.

Compiling all of the minigames together

Here are my thoughts so far on what everyone's been doing. I didn't want to hurt anyone by actually changing anything, or worse — overwrite their changes.

Perhaps just a personal thing, but I find timed speech bubbles — "say hi for 2 secs" — are always either too long or too short. Isn't it better to give the player control, so they have the choice to click past them? Perhaps they could be replaced with something like:

I appreciate that it would be a big task to replace them all; happy to do it myself (:

Each minigame, in no particular order...

Canada:
The background is nice. The leaves fall down quite nicely, but would it look better if they had some sideways motion as well? Perhaps something like:


In terms of gameplay, the leaves all start falling at the same time — which means the best strategy seems to be moving the basket really quickly from side to side, to catch all the leaves at once. I found it better with a randomised start time for each leaf; this made it much more interesting, although the exact values and the win condition may need tweaking.


Japan:
I like that this one has more of a story. Perhaps technically difficult, but would it be interesting to make the player rub away the dirt on the binoculars? I'm sure it could be done, with some excessive use of stamp-ing sprites, and a sprite to detect when "not <touching color(dirt color)>". Happy to try it if it is a good idea..

Romania:
Well written dialog (apart from the "science project" sounding slightly implausible — but then I don't know what Romania's like...  ). Oh, and I like the music!
The challenge seemed quite easy — would it be better if the bats' speed slowly increased? And part of the code stated 10 bats, while the dialog mentioned 20...

Brazil (Soccer):
It took me a moment to "get" it at first — probably just me being a little stupid. It might be nice to have some feedback each time a goal is scored, as I didn't notice at first — perhaps just flash up the word "GOAL" or "SCORE" or something?

France:
I like the map of the country at the start; it fits nicely with the world map idea, too.
I like the grey scratch cat as Jak; could he be used in any of the other minigames, too?
Finally, I'm not sure what happens next; it's not clear how this relates to the other countries/minigames. Was it just me, or is the clue not in there yet? I'm sure this could be added when the projects are linked together with the script, anyway.

India (Cricket):
This one also feels unfinished; not a criticism, just means there's stuff left to do, I suppose. Will this one have a background? And what will the win condition be?

~

I think that's all of them; please tell me if not!

(When I was looking at them, I tweaked some of them slightly — for example the leaves on the Canada one. As I said, I didn't want to hurt anyone by changing anything, as there is a lot of good work here — but if you're happy, then I can share my (slightly updated) versions on DropBox.)

Last edited by blob8108 (2011-08-08 14:42:35)

blob8108 wrote:

Here are my thoughts so far on what everyone's been doing. I didn't want to hurt anyone by actually changing anything, or worse — overwrite their changes.

Perhaps just a personal thing, but I find timed speech bubbles — "say hi for 2 secs" — are always either too long or too short. Isn't it better to give the player control, so they have the choice to click past them? Perhaps they could be replaced with something like:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9598124/Screens … dialog.png
I appreciate that it would be a big task to replace them all; happy to do it myself (:

Each minigame, in no particular order...

Canada:
The background is nice. The leaves fall down quite nicely, but would it look better if they had some sideways motion as well? Perhaps something like:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9598124/Screens … andomx.png

In terms of gameplay, the leaves all start falling at the same time — which means the best strategy seems to be moving the basket really quickly from side to side, to catch all the leaves at once. I found it better with a randomised start time for each leaf; this made it much more interesting, although the exact values and the win condition may need tweaking.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9598124/Screens … fdelay.png

Japan:
I like that this one has more of a story. Perhaps technically difficult, but would it be interesting to make the player rub away the dirt on the binoculars? I'm sure it could be done, with some excessive use of stamp-ing sprites, and a sprite to detect when "not <touching color(dirt color)>". Happy to try it if it is a good idea..

Romania:
Well written dialog (apart from the "science project" sounding slightly implausible — but then I don't know what Romania's like...  ). Oh, and I like the music!
The challenge seemed quite easy — would it be better if the bats' speed slowly increased? And part of the code stated 10 bats, while the dialog mentioned 20...

Soccer:
Which country is this, by the way?
It took me a moment to "get" it at first — probably just me being a little stupid. It might be nice to have some feedback each time a goal is scored, as I didn't notice at first — perhaps just flash up the word "GOAL" or "SCORE" or something?

France:
I like the map of the country at the start; it fits nicely with the world map idea, too.
I like the grey scratch cat as Jak; could he be used in any of the other minigames, too?
Finally, I'm not sure what happens next; it's not clear how this relates to the other countries/minigames. Was it just me, or is the clue not in there yet? I'm sure this could be added when the projects are linked together with the script, anyway.

Cricket:
What country is this one, as well?
This one also feels unfinished; not a criticism, just means there's stuff left to do, I suppose. Will this one have a background? And what will the win condition be?

~

I think that's all of them; please tell me if not!

(When I was looking at them, I tweaked some of them slightly — for example the leaves on the Canada one. As I said, I didn't want to hurt anyone by changing anything, as there is a lot of good work here — but if you're happy, then I can share my (slightly updated) versions on DropBox.)

Great Ideas! I will start working on all of them. Thanks you.