Scratch

When I first started on scratch, I was very bad at drawing. Like, very very very bad. But now I've improved and moved on to deviantart, since I feel my art is more appreciated there


I've also become more serious with it and have been trying different techniques and mediums, building on critique instead of crying over it


I'm not embarrased to say I still go on Scratch, and I'm glad it's helped me grow as an artist.

I can upload some improvement art later for you guys to see. my overall style and knowledge has grown exponentially

littletonkslover wrote:

okay now it sounds like i have a huge ego

sorry bout that

It doesn't sound that way ^^;

I love Scratch, you can learn to accept all kinds of people here, and people at school think I'm some sort of computer genius. Same with Albertt911, we took an IT class and felt great to be recognised.

I agree with everything Tonks said, I've learnt from kaotheroogoncreator and am now decent at drawing anime 

I know a lot.

I know some Smalltalk (source code ftw), VB, HTML, and a lot of other stuff.

I learned HTML when I was 12 (last year! XD).

PW132 wrote:

*cough* This topic is for people who came here to learn programming or animation or something like that if you didn't then scram *cough*

I think this site seems to have lost track of what it was supposed to be: A site for learning programming. I don't give a fig about what shape the programming comes in; Basic animation, Simple games, Mathematic visualizations, doesn't matter. What isn't programming is coloring contests and that [EXPUNGED]. But seeing as those little kitty-worshiping weirdos probably aren't here for programming and have no interest in it, I decided to post in here, where most people care about it at least a little. My point is not to yet again ramble about coloring contests and that sort of thing, I want to present this: This site is intended to be a stepping stone. And what I want you people to do is finally move onward. Anyone here who has at least 1000 or so posts or has been on for more than a year should sit up and listen to this post. You people need to begin thinking about what to do after this site. Do you want to pursue the games software design or computer science side of the site that you may have taken an interest in? Go learn C++ or Python! Or, even better, both! I even already started that. Want to learn about animation more? Go get Flash and learn it! Can't afford it? Then go get a bloody pencil and scanner. Are you one of those kitten worshipping coloring mice I mentioned before? SHOVE OFF AND GO TO DEVIANTART YOU- I apologize. *ahem*

  Anyway, you people must consider what you will do after this site. Please discuss such things here, I feel this topic had to be made urgently.

Actually deviantART has a fairly big programming community (it has it's own forum for it) and the website allows for Flash uploads as well as programs written to work with open source software, among other things involving some sort of code. When joined dA, I thought I'd just be focused on art only... but came out learning some basic syntax for programming in Apophysis!    With that mind, you never know what you learn when you go on a site.

Certainly Scratch is intended to be a stepping stone for those interested in programming (and of course, it is encouraged to move onto another programming language when one has exhausted Scratch), but let's not shove off the artists just because they're not in a programming-savvy on the onset - who knows, maybe they might turn out to utilize Scratch to the fullest if we give them the chance.

fullmoon wrote:

*Looks for post from cheddargirl*
*Doesn't see one*
*Posts*

Sorry, I was typing up this one and it took me a while to collect my thought. 

Last edited by cheddargirl (2011-08-01 17:51:52)

PW132 wrote:

*cough* This topic is for people who came here to learn programming or animation or something like that if you didn't then scram *cough*

I think this site seems to have lost track of what it was supposed to be: A site for learning programming. I don't give a fig about what shape the programming comes in; Basic animation, Simple games, Mathematic visualizations, doesn't matter. What isn't programming is coloring contests and that [EXPUNGED]. But seeing as those little kitty-worshiping weirdos probably aren't here for programming and have no interest in it, I decided to post in here, where most people care about it at least a little. My point is not to yet again ramble about coloring contests and that sort of thing, I want to present this: This site is intended to be a stepping stone. And what I want you people to do is finally move onward. Anyone here who has at least 1000 or so posts or has been on for more than a year should sit up and listen to this post. You people need to begin thinking about what to do after this site. Do you want to pursue the games software design or computer science side of the site that you may have taken an interest in? Go learn C++ or Python! Or, even better, both! I even already started that. Want to learn about animation more? Go get Flash and learn it! Can't afford it? Then go get a bloody pencil and scanner. Are you one of those kitten worshipping coloring mice I mentioned before? SHOVE OFF AND GO TO DEVIANTART YOU- I apologize. *ahem*

  Anyway, you people must consider what you will do after this site. Please discuss such things here, I feel this topic had to be made urgently.

Great, finally someone else who doesn't like those stupid coloring contests.    I want GOOD THINGS on the Front Page. Like awesome games and animations.

Paddle2See wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Scratch is whatever you make it to be. Its original intended use was a way to teach children basic programming, but it's become so much more. The community has its own culture, and it's frankly quite interesting. I don't see a problem with using Scratch for real, serious programming. Many people have done it.

I agree and would like to expand.  The goals for Scratch of the Lifelong Kindergarten Group that created it (please note the "Lifelong" part of the title) are not just to teach children basic programming - but to provide people of all ages with different ways to play and learn creatively using technology.  So that includes programming of all sorts, art sharing, RPG play and so on.

veggieman001 wrote:

I don't see a need for people to move on. If you need to move on, that's fine. But most of the people on here don't need to make decisions like that; after all, most of us are still young.

And even those of us that are no longer physically young, might enjoy the community and the ease of use of the programming language that we see no need to move on.  As you say, it meets our needs.  Scratch is for people of all ages.

Hear, hear, as they say in the parliament house.

ElectricSparx wrote:

PW132 wrote:

*cough* This topic is for people who came here to learn programming or animation or something like that if you didn't then scram *cough*

I think this site seems to have lost track of what it was supposed to be: A site for learning programming. I don't give a fig about what shape the programming comes in; Basic animation, Simple games, Mathematic visualizations, doesn't matter. What isn't programming is coloring contests and that [EXPUNGED]. But seeing as those little kitty-worshiping weirdos probably aren't here for programming and have no interest in it, I decided to post in here, where most people care about it at least a little. My point is not to yet again ramble about coloring contests and that sort of thing, I want to present this: This site is intended to be a stepping stone. And what I want you people to do is finally move onward. Anyone here who has at least 1000 or so posts or has been on for more than a year should sit up and listen to this post. You people need to begin thinking about what to do after this site. Do you want to pursue the games software design or computer science side of the site that you may have taken an interest in? Go learn C++ or Python! Or, even better, both! I even already started that. Want to learn about animation more? Go get Flash and learn it! Can't afford it? Then go get a bloody pencil and scanner. Are you one of those kitten worshipping coloring mice I mentioned before? SHOVE OFF AND GO TO DEVIANTART YOU- I apologize. *ahem*

  Anyway, you people must consider what you will do after this site. Please discuss such things here, I feel this topic had to be made urgently.

Great, finally someone else who doesn't like those stupid coloring contests.    I want GOOD THINGS on the Front Page. Like awesome games and animations.

define "good"

do i love them? no

but it's not my problem

Don't think that I'm one of the guys you're talking about who wants all this.  I program (admittedly glitchy) Python games and use Adobe Flash CS5.5.  I've seen the effects of what Scratch was meant for.  But Scratch isn't just a stepping stone for learning to program.  It's also a friendly environment.  Graphics Design is a a part of programming (unfortunately for me: a guy who needs Blender to draw any half-decent piece of work and can't afford to hire a real graphics artist), and all the Art Contests allow practice of that.  Okay, so that's a weak point.  The point is 4 lines up, 30 characters in.  It starts with "But Scratch".  It ends 4 lines above this one, ends 8 characters in.

littletonkslover wrote:

ElectricSparx wrote:

PW132 wrote:

*cough* This topic is for people who came here to learn programming or animation or something like that if you didn't then scram *cough*

I think this site seems to have lost track of what it was supposed to be: A site for learning programming. I don't give a fig about what shape the programming comes in; Basic animation, Simple games, Mathematic visualizations, doesn't matter. What isn't programming is coloring contests and that [EXPUNGED]. But seeing as those little kitty-worshiping weirdos probably aren't here for programming and have no interest in it, I decided to post in here, where most people care about it at least a little. My point is not to yet again ramble about coloring contests and that sort of thing, I want to present this: This site is intended to be a stepping stone. And what I want you people to do is finally move onward. Anyone here who has at least 1000 or so posts or has been on for more than a year should sit up and listen to this post. You people need to begin thinking about what to do after this site. Do you want to pursue the games software design or computer science side of the site that you may have taken an interest in? Go learn C++ or Python! Or, even better, both! I even already started that. Want to learn about animation more? Go get Flash and learn it! Can't afford it? Then go get a bloody pencil and scanner. Are you one of those kitten worshipping coloring mice I mentioned before? SHOVE OFF AND GO TO DEVIANTART YOU- I apologize. *ahem*

  Anyway, you people must consider what you will do after this site. Please discuss such things here, I feel this topic had to be made urgently.

Great, finally someone else who doesn't like those stupid coloring contests.    I want GOOD THINGS on the Front Page. Like awesome games and animations.

define "good"

do i love them? no

but it's not my problem

this

Paddle2See wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Scratch is whatever you make it to be. Its original intended use was a way to teach children basic programming, but it's become so much more. The community has its own culture, and it's frankly quite interesting. I don't see a problem with using Scratch for real, serious programming. Many people have done it.

I agree and would like to expand.  The goals for Scratch of the Lifelong Kindergarten Group that created it (please note the "Lifelong" part of the title) are not just to teach children basic programming - but to provide people of all ages with different ways to play and learn creatively using technology.  So that includes programming of all sorts, art sharing, RPG play and so on.

veggieman001 wrote:

I don't see a need for people to move on. If you need to move on, that's fine. But most of the people on here don't need to make decisions like that; after all, most of us are still young.

And even those of us that are no longer physically young, might enjoy the community and the ease of use of the programming language that we see no need to move on.  As you say, it meets our needs.  Scratch is for people of all ages and all interests.

This.