Scratch

Why you guys hatin' on CoD? Some people just like violent video games, respect their opinion.

soupoftomato wrote:

I remember some kids we're like, "We saw Epic Kirby at the mall and we were playing the first level and we couldn't get over some hill"
Me: Wow you couldn't beat the first level?
Response: Well you play little e games! We play M for mature cause we're tough! *grunt*

Probably are Halo fans. Stupid game ruined the FPS genre.

It wasn't a bad game as such, but there's no real skill in it! It's too easy! And then every game copied it for some reason. (Except for Valve.  )

Last edited by PW132 (2011-07-31 01:02:05)

Onyxsbayne wrote:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/ … mic146.png
I still play Pokemon and Yugioh, I don't let ANYONE have a problem with that.

  That pic! They're wearing pokewalkers.

I love playing Pokemon, because the games are soooooo epic. But, I just went through 7th grade, hardly talking to anyone. When I accidentally told this really (and I mean REALLY) fat, and out of shaped, hardcore COD fan I liked Pokemon, he would be a huge jerk, saying stuff out loud to me about Pokemon. He even once told everyone that he saw me at Gamestop looking at Pokemon and MegaMan games. (I did see him, but this was the day I bought my 3DS, and I was getting games for it. ( I don't even like MegaMan. Its not that I hate it, I've just never played it, or barely know what it is.)







.......I SERIOUSLY can't wait until college.....

Harakou wrote:

PW132 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

I remember some kids we're like, "We saw Epic Kirby at the mall and we were playing the first level and we couldn't get over some hill"
Me: Wow you couldn't beat the first level?
Response: Well you play little e games! We play M for mature cause we're tough! *grunt*

Probably are Halo fans. Stupid game ruined the FPS genre.

It wasn't a bad game as such, but there's no real skill in it! It's too easy! And then every game copied it for some reason. (Except for Valve.  )

Halo didn't ruin the FPS's; it introduced lots of new ideas to the genre and is still a memorable game today. As for "every game copying it", I see far more clones of CoD than Halo nowadays. I'm not really going to say much about skill because that's something we could go 'round and 'round about, but I will say that it requires more skill than some games.

Well look: First thing most people talk about is the 2 weapons thing. That's not fun, that's just annoying and inconvenient! I like having lots of alternatives to choose from! And now tons of games do it!

Harakou wrote:

PW132 wrote:

Harakou wrote:

Halo didn't ruin the FPS's; it introduced lots of new ideas to the genre and is still a memorable game today. As for "every game copying it", I see far more clones of CoD than Halo nowadays. I'm not really going to say much about skill because that's something we could go 'round and 'round about, but I will say that it requires more skill than some games.

Well look: First thing most people talk about is the 2 weapons thing. That's not fun, that's just annoying and inconvenient! I like having lots of alternatives to choose from! And now tons of games do it!

Well, it's realistic and forces you to make tactical weapon choices. It adds an element of strategy, especially in the campaign where you may need to make do with one versatile weapon because you need the other slot for a weapon that will be useful later.

"Realistic?" How about one shot to the head and the system wipes it's hard drive? That's realistic. Plus it's not even very tactical in how it's implemented, everything is just cannon fodder!

deatheater wrote:

PW132 wrote:

Harakou wrote:

Halo didn't ruin the FPS's; it introduced lots of new ideas to the genre and is still a memorable game today. As for "every game copying it", I see far more clones of CoD than Halo nowadays. I'm not really going to say much about skill because that's something we could go 'round and 'round about, but I will say that it requires more skill than some games.

Well look: First thing most people talk about is the 2 weapons thing. That's not fun, that's just annoying and inconvenient! I like having lots of alternatives to choose from! And now tons of games do it!

Maybe for singleplayer/campaign, but one of the main attractions about the halo series (and other fps's) is the multi-player, and being able to carry more then 2 guns in multi-player would suck because there'd always be this one guy in each match who would rush for every power weapon on the map and take them all (meaning there'd be one guy roaming around with a shotgun, a rocket launcher, a sniper rifle, and any other power weapons on the map)

Look, in TF2 you start with every weapon your character can use with full ammo. And it works perfectly fine.

PW132 wrote:

deatheater wrote:

PW132 wrote:

Well look: First thing most people talk about is the 2 weapons thing. That's not fun, that's just annoying and inconvenient! I like having lots of alternatives to choose from! And now tons of games do it!

Maybe for singleplayer/campaign, but one of the main attractions about the halo series (and other fps's) is the multi-player, and being able to carry more then 2 guns in multi-player would suck because there'd always be this one guy in each match who would rush for every power weapon on the map and take them all (meaning there'd be one guy roaming around with a shotgun, a rocket launcher, a sniper rifle, and any other power weapons on the map)

Look, in TF2 you start with every weapon your character can use with full ammo. And it works perfectly fine.

In TF2 you have classes which can use only a certain amount of weapons, however in other fps's, such as halo, you don't have classes and so each person can use every type of weapon. So imagine in TF2 if a pyro got the heavy's weapons, the snipers weapons and the soldiers weapons, it wouldn't be very fun playing with that one guy who was on the other team.

Harakou wrote:

PW132 wrote:

Harakou wrote:

Well, it's realistic and forces you to make tactical weapon choices. It adds an element of strategy, especially in the campaign where you may need to make do with one versatile weapon because you need the other slot for a weapon that will be useful later.

"Realistic?" How about one shot to the head and the system wipes it's hard drive? That's realistic. Plus it's not even very tactical in how it's implemented, everything is just cannon fodder!

One of the biggest things it introduced was a very intelligent AI. Enemies are hardly cannon fodder (okay, except for Grunts) and can be really challenging. Each one requires a different approach to best defeat them. That was already in the first Half-Life.

I also resent the idea that there can't be different play styles for different games. That system may be best for TF2, but it's a class-based system. Everyone makes their tactical decisions when they choose a class. Halo isn't; you make your decisions based on the situation and your preferences.

(Now trying to relate this to the topic so we don't go hopelessly OT. XD) I think that for many people there's this odd stigma against games like Halo, simply because everyone likes them, as though that makes them automatically appeal to the lowest common denominator. While that may be true of some games, it's best to remember that many of the original versions of these games introduced a lot to their own genre, and that they're genuinely good games.

I think I'm just done with this for tonight now.

Harakou wrote:

PW132 wrote:

Harakou wrote:

One of the biggest things it introduced was a very intelligent AI. Enemies are hardly cannon fodder (okay, except for Grunts) and can be really challenging. Each one requires a different approach to best defeat them. That was already in the first Half-Life.

I also resent the idea that there can't be different play styles for different games. That system may be best for TF2, but it's a class-based system. Everyone makes their tactical decisions when they choose a class. Halo isn't; you make your decisions based on the situation and your preferences.

(Now trying to relate this to the topic so we don't go hopelessly OT. XD) I think that for many people there's this odd stigma against games like Halo, simply because everyone likes them, as though that makes them automatically appeal to the lowest common denominator. While that may be true of some games, it's best to remember that many of the original versions of these games introduced a lot to their own genre, and that they're genuinely good games.

I think I'm just done with this for tonight now.

Ah, I'll admit you're right that Halo was likely not the first game to feature such a great AI, but it's up there as one of the first, and arguably one of the best early implementations.

Anyway, back on topic? 

Heck yeah, I'm so sleepy I don't even know why I brought this up in the first place.

WHERE ARE MY PARENTS ALREADY

Nexstudent wrote:

What more does Call of Duty do for you than Metroid did?

Metroid > CoD

And I own EVERY POSSIBLE GAME of each series.

I still play lots of games like Mario, Kirby, Zelda, Sonic etc. But I have CoD and its ok. I also have the thing which I think is in the middle, Sly Cooper.