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I'd like to get my sons (age 10 and 8) programming, but the only hook that I think will get them started is the ability to make a kinda cool game.
Ideally, I'd like to see a tutorial that leads them down the path of making a starter non-lame game. A specific example I've found, for Flash-based games, is at the KongregateLabs site:
http://www.kongregate.com/labs
Can Scratch achieve the same thing? Are there any existing tutorials or projects that cover similar material?
(I haven't learned Scratch myself yet, and don't really have time to start learning a new language/platform, only to find it can't do what the kids want...)
More thoughts at
http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/z2008-12-23-WebGamePlatformContest
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Yes, Scratch can achieve the same thing, however it is highly difficult, and I would suggest helping your sons If you really want them to make their first game be a shooting game. If you want it to be a scroller, your going to have to put a lot of effort into it, for that's even more complicated. I started doing scratch a little after I was 11, and it still takes me a bit to make that type of game. It would probably be better to get the feel for the program first.
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There really aren't any tutorial for scratch like the one you showed. Scratch is less for making professional games and more for experimentation. If you want to develop games like the one in the tutorial you posted I think it would be best to use flash instead of scratch.
Here are some specific problems with scratch that would prevent you from making a game like the one in your tutorial
-No sprite duplication
- Problems with collision detection with many sprites
-scrolling, this is made more difficult in scratch because you can't duplicate sprites, place objects off the stage, of move the entire background
-Meters are more difficult to make because you can't stretch sprites, there is a way to control size but for this you want to control the width of sprites
-You can't copy and paste code when you are using blocks
You could make a game like the one in your tutorial in scratch, but it would be much more difficult and you would have to use work arounds.
So basically, you can show your sons scratch to show them how if statements, variables and other simple programming concepts work. Scratch is really meant for smaller projects and you want to make cool games like the kind of flash game websites then I recommend using flash. Flash actionscript is a really simple language to learn and it is powerful enough to make more complex games.
Last edited by archmage (2008-12-29 12:48:01)
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archmage wrote:
There really aren't any tutorial for scratch like the one you showed. Scratch is less for making professional games and more for experimentation. If you want to develop games like the one in the tutorial you posted I think it would be best to use flash instead of scratch.
Here are some specific problems with scratch that would prevent you from making a game like the one in your tutorial
-No sprite duplication
- Problems with collision detection with many sprites
-scrolling, this is made more difficult in scratch because you can't duplicate sprites, place objects off the stage, of move the entire background
-Meters are more difficult to make because you can't stretch sprites, there is a way to control size but for this you want to control the width of sprites
-You can't copy and paste code when you are using blocks
You could make a game like the one in your tutorial in scratch, but it would be much more difficult and you would have to use work arounds.
So basically, you can show your sons scratch to show them how if statements, variables and other simple programming concepts work. Scratch is really meant for smaller projects and you want to make cool games like the kind of flash game websites then I recommend using flash. Flash actionscript is a really simple language to learn and it is powerful enough to make more complex games.
True, though actually somebody in scratch made a game just like this game and it was great and on top favorited! I'll post a link to it once I find it on my 12 page list of favorites.
After finding the project *pant* I found it! Its called Neo Its really cool. Though its a bit slow so I reccomend downloading it.
Last edited by Lucario621 (2008-12-31 18:10:23)
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